music download sites?

[Kevin Kempter]

Hi all;

anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? I'm wanting to 
find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply download the 
mp3 files, or other such stupidity.

Suggestions ?

Thanks in advance

[Matthew Flaschen]

Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  Hi all;
>  
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? 
I use both AmazonMP3 and Magnatune occasionally.

Magnatune is perfect (Ogg Vorbis or FLAC, no downloader needed, etc.),
except it doesn't have any mainstream artists.

AmazonMP3 has a (proprietary) downloader for Linux that works well.  I'd
like the downloader to be FOSS, and offer Ogg Vorbis, but...

Matt Flaschen

[g]

Kevin Kempter wrote:

>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites?
i seldom download music, but when i do;

http://www.jamendo.com/en/ has ogg and mp3 music with free downloads that
i have pulled using just firefox.

http://www.downloading-music.org/, a free mp3 search engine.


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[Todd Zullinger]

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>  AmazonMP3 has a (proprietary) downloader for Linux that works well.
Perhaps it's worth noting that you only need the proprietary download
tool for purchasing full albums.  Individual tracks can be had with
just Firefox (at least, they could when I bought a few tracks to test
this a few months ago).

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[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 19:05:07 Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  Hi all;
>
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? I'm wanting
>  to find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply
>  download the mp3 files, or other such stupidity.
>
>  Suggestions ?
>
>  Thanks in advance 
I'm not hugely into downloading music, but I've used
Magnatune and been well 
pleased with the result.  They offer pay-by-track or album and also monthly 
subscriptions for unlimited (as far as I can remember) download.  They do 
specialise in small labels, though, so you won't find much from big names.

Anne

[Steve Searle]

Around 10:15am on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 (UK time), JasonB scrawled:

>  i use mp3 obsession [2] its very cheap and all online so you do not
>  need any software. songs on there are from 9cents and all good
>  quality. also, this site is legal unlike many that have been suggested
>  here 8-) 
This does not to seem to be a site that sells mp3s, but a site that
reviews (really links) to a number of Russian mp3 sites.  From the FAQ:

Is this service legal?
Yes, all of the sites we review are based in Russia, and Russian laws
allow you to to download mp3's as long as they are for personal use only
and not distribution. 

How to download music from us :
Step 1. Browse or search for the track, album or soundtrack you wish to
download
Step 2. Select which website you wish to download your selection from
Step 3. Click 'buy track/album/soundtrack'
Step 4. You will be taken to your chosen website to buy the mp3

I suspect that the legality of buying this way would be disputed by a
number of organisations outside of Russia.

Steve

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[potat0]

>  
>  Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  Hi all;
>  
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? I'm wanting to
>  find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply download the
>  mp3 files, or other such stupidity.
>  
>  Suggestions ?
>  
>  Thanks in advance
>  Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines [1] 
hi,

i use mp3 obsession [2] its very cheap and all online so you do not need any software.
songs on there are from 9cents and all good quality. also, this site is legal unlike many
that have been suggested here 8-)


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[Mauriat M]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Kevin Kempter
<kevin(a)kevinkempterllc.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi all;
>
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? I'm wanting to
>  find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply download the
>  mp3 files, or other such stupidity.
>
>  Suggestions ?
>
>  Thanks in advance 
Not exactly answering your question:  Amazon.com's music purchase has
a Linux client.  As I understand the files you get are pure DRM-free
MP3 files.

-Mauriat

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 12:05 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  Hi all;
>  
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? I'm wanting to 
>  find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply download the 
>  mp3 files, or other such stupidity. 
emusic.com has a Linux client which I used for a while.

poc

[thomas cameron]

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Anne Wilson wrote:
>  On Saturday 24 January 2009 17:02:40 Thomas Cameron wrote:
> > I've had long debates with some friends about downloading MP3s.  For me,
> > I wind up downloading MP3s for music I find interesting but not worth
> > buying the CD for.  So in my case, I can honestly say that the whole
> > RIAA argument about musicians having lost revenue are complete bullshit.
> >  If I find an artist I *really* like, I will go and buy the CD.  It's
> > worth 15 cents a track to check out an artist I'm not familiar with.  No
> > way would I plunk down $12-$15 for the same CD.
>  
>  Artists lose revenue through illegal file-sharing. 
I would argue that.  I am 100% certainly *not* going to buy a CD from an
artist I don't know.  So in my case, file sharing is actually much
*more* likely to earn them a sale.  If I can listen to a CD for a very
low price (e.g. 15 cents/track at http://gomusic.ru or free via p2p) and
then I like it, I go buy it.  So the argument could be made that
file-sharing is actually a win for the artists in my case.

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[Matthew Flaschen]

Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> AmazonMP3 has a (proprietary) downloader for Linux that works
> well.  I'd
> >> like the downloader to be FOSS, and offer Ogg Vorbis, but...
> > I can't get the Amazon downloader to work  on F10. It does work on F9,
> > however.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd.html
> >
>  I found that it wasn't needed, so I'm pleased that I didn't have to install 
>  it. 
It is needed, if you want to download complete albums.

Matt Flaschen

[Bill Davidsen]

Anne Wilson wrote:

>  Artists lose revenue through illegal file-sharing.  Artists gain
> revenue if 
>  you buy from reputable sites.  Magnatune guarantee that the artist will get 
>  50% of whatever you pay (I don't know how they split it when you buy monthly 
>  subscriptions).  I bought a CD in wav form for burning because it fitted a 
>  particular niche.  If I'd paid the recommended $5 (I paid slightly more) the 
>  artist would have got a great deal more than he would get from a £12-£15 shop-
>  bought one.  Incidentally, they will actually burn a disc and send it to you 
>  for only a small extra charge.
>   
Well said!


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[Antonio Olivares]

>  > I've had long debates with some friends about
>  downloading MP3s.  For me,
>  > I wind up downloading MP3s for music I find
>  interesting but not worth
>  > buying the CD for.  So in my case, I can honestly say
>  that the whole
>  > RIAA argument about musicians having lost revenue are
>  complete bullshit.
>  >  If I find an artist I *really* like, I will go and
>  buy the CD.  It's
>  > worth 15 cents a track to check out an artist I'm
>  not familiar with.  No
>  > way would I plunk down $12-$15 for the same CD.
>  
>  Artists lose revenue through illegal file-sharing.  Artists
>  gain revenue if 
>  you buy from reputable sites.  Magnatune guarantee that the
>  artist will get 
>  50% of whatever you pay (I don't know how they split it
>  when you buy monthly 
>  subscriptions).   
I hate to disagree with some of the arguments here, but here it goes:

Artists lose money either which way :(, they make the money via concerts, presentations. 
The guys at recording studios rip them off, the illegal/legal file sharing guys as well. 
I have a friend who had hit somewhat big in the 80's and once in a while he and his
group go out to the states, like Florida, New York, Illinois, Nevada and California.  He
asked his recording studio to make for him like 50 cd's so he could take to his
presentations.  They charged him(the original author, songs were all his own), like $10
for each cd.  He asked me if I could burn for him multiple copies of his big hits and how
much I would charge him.  I told him to bring me the cd's(blanks) and I would happily
burn them and then a friend copy the cd label and print out the cd covers.  He wanted to
pay me $5 for each cd, but since he is a friend of the family, I told him that it was OK
:)

I asked if anything was illegal and he told me that if I ever get into trouble, as the
original author of the music/songs he would go to court with me if necessary.

The good^{*} artists give away their music for free and release it under protective
licenses.  They are released under Cretive common licenses or something like that.  

Regards,

Antonio 

^{*}  the word good here is subjective, so YMMV.  Good refers to kind people who like to
share their work so others can enjoy it too without paying royalities.  Like we enjoy
using Fedora for free and we do not pay to use it :)

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 24 January 2009 18:05:44 Steven Stern wrote:
>  On 01/20/2009 01:29 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>  > Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  >> Hi all;
>  >>
>  >> anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites?
>  >
>  > I use both AmazonMP3 and Magnatune occasionally.
>  >
>  > Magnatune is perfect (Ogg Vorbis or FLAC, no downloader needed, etc.),
>  > except it doesn't have any mainstream artists.
>  >
>  > AmazonMP3 has a (proprietary) downloader for Linux that works well.  I'd
>  > like the downloader to be FOSS, and offer Ogg Vorbis, but...
>
>  I can't get the Amazon downloader to work  on F10. It does work on F9,
>  however.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd.html
>  
I found that it wasn't needed, so I'm pleased that I didn't have to
install 
it.

Anne

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On 01/20/2009 01:29 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>  Kevin Kempter wrote:
> > Hi all;
> >
> > anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites?
>  
>  I use both AmazonMP3 and Magnatune occasionally.
>  
>  Magnatune is perfect (Ogg Vorbis or FLAC, no downloader needed, etc.),
>  except it doesn't have any mainstream artists.
>  
>  AmazonMP3 has a (proprietary) downloader for Linux that works well.  I'd
>  like the downloader to be FOSS, and offer Ogg Vorbis, but...
>   
I can't get the Amazon downloader to work  on F10. It does work on F9,
however.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd.html



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[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 24 January 2009 17:02:40 Thomas Cameron wrote:
>  I've had long debates with some friends about downloading MP3s.
>  For me,
>  I wind up downloading MP3s for music I find interesting but not worth
>  buying the CD for.  So in my case, I can honestly say that the whole
>  RIAA argument about musicians having lost revenue are complete bullshit.
>   If I find an artist I *really* like, I will go and buy the CD.  It's
>  worth 15 cents a track to check out an artist I'm not familiar with.  No
>  way would I plunk down $12-$15 for the same CD. 
Artists lose revenue through illegal file-sharing.  Artists gain revenue if 
you buy from reputable sites.  Magnatune guarantee that the artist will get 
50% of whatever you pay (I don't know how they split it when you buy monthly 
subscriptions).  I bought a CD in wav form for burning because it fitted a 
particular niche.  If I'd paid the recommended $5 (I paid slightly more) the 
artist would have got a great deal more than he would get from a £12-£15 shop-
bought one.  Incidentally, they will actually burn a disc and send it to you 
for only a small extra charge.

I'm sure there are other services equally good and maybe offering a slightly 
different set of services.

Anne

[thomas cameron]

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Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  Hi all;
>  
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? I'm wanting to 
>  find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply download the 
>  mp3 files, or other such stupidity.
>  
>  Suggestions ?
>  
>  Thanks in advance
>   
http://gomusic.ru

According to their legal information page, they are legal in Russia.
Whether that makes them legal to download from in your country, I have
no idea.  I have been using them for well over a year with no identity
theft or security issues.  Their tech support is lightning fast to
respond, customer service is great, and MP3s are something like 15
cents/track when you buy by the album.

I've had long debates with some friends about downloading MP3s.  For me,
I wind up downloading MP3s for music I find interesting but not worth
buying the CD for.  So in my case, I can honestly say that the whole
RIAA argument about musicians having lost revenue are complete bullshit.
 If I find an artist I *really* like, I will go and buy the CD.  It's
worth 15 cents a track to check out an artist I'm not familiar with.  No
way would I plunk down $12-$15 for the same CD.

Also, if you've not tried http://www.pandora.com, you really should.
You plug in an artist or song you like and it finds similar music based
on what the call the music genome.  Things like beats per minute, vocal
quality, syncopation and rhythm and so on.  I've been introduced to a
ton of new (to me) artists that I really like that way.

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[Marko Vojinovic]

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 20:05, Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites?
> I'm wanting
>  to find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply
>  download the mp3 files, or other such stupidity.
>
>  Suggestions ? 
Google and torrent?

HTH, :-)
Marko

[Matthew Flaschen]

JD wrote:
>  Many such sites  I have looked at to do not need any windows
>  software. You just register, provide your personal info
>  and your credit card numbers. That's it!
>  You are on your own! 
Or... you can use sites that have been reviewed by reliable publications.

Matt Flaschen

[JD]

I have seen many - problem you need to be aware of is that some
of these sites are into identity theft BIG TIME!
Many such sites  I have looked at to do not need any windows
software. You just register, provide your personal info
and your credit card numbers. That's it!
You are on your own!


Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  Hi all;
>
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites? I'm wanting to 
>  find one that does not require windows or mac software to simply download the 
>  mp3 files, or other such stupidity.
>
>  Suggestions ?
>
>  Thanks in advance
>
>

[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:15:21PM -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>  Anne Wilson wrote:
>  > On Saturday 24 January 2009 17:02:40 Thomas Cameron wrote:
>  >> I've had long debates with some friends about downloading MP3s.  For me,
>  >> I wind up downloading MP3s for music I find interesting but not worth
>  >> buying the CD for.  So in my case, I can honestly say that the whole
>  >> RIAA argument about musicians having lost revenue are complete bullshit.
>  >>  If I find an artist I *really* like, I will go and buy the CD.  It's
>  >> worth 15 cents a track to check out an artist I'm not familiar with.  No
>  >> way would I plunk down $12-$15 for the same CD.
>  > 
>  > Artists lose revenue through illegal file-sharing.
>  
>  I would argue that.  I am 100% certainly *not* going to buy a CD from an
>  artist I don't know.  So in my case, file sharing is actually much
>  *more* likely to earn them a sale.  If I can listen to a CD for a very
>  low price (e.g. 15 cents/track at http://gomusic.ru or free via p2p) and
>  then I like it, I go buy it.  So the argument could be made that
>  file-sharing is actually a win for the artists in my case. 
I agree that file sharing is probably a win for a lot of independent
artists, especially the good ones. ;-) But it should be the artist's
choice, not ours.

Sites like CD Baby provide 2-minute snippets of songs, often every
song on an album, which is plenty to decide if you like an album
enough to buy it.  They tend to feature indies, though.  Amazon does
much the same I think, but could probably provide longer snippets.
However, they seem to do it for almost everything they sell.

There's plenty of ways to sample records out there that don't involve
downloading albums from places where the artist is getting absolutely
no return on their investment of time, energy, and (hopefully) talent.

Anyway, this is a tired debate that doesn't have a lot to do with
Fedora at this point, but I'll bring it back on-topic by pointing out
that you can sample music using Jamendo and Magnatune, both supported
by e.g. Rhythmbox out of the box in Fedora, and both allowing you to
basically pay what you want to support artists.  I'm not going to lie
and say everything there has mass appeal, but even a picky guy like me
has found things to like on both services.  Those artists have made a
conscious choice to make their work available to you like that, and
it's good to promote that mindset and reward them as a lesson to other
artists on how they might market their work.

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[Jorge Fábregas]

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 03:05:07 pm Kevin Kempter wrote:
>  anyone out there using one of the pay for music download sites?
mp3.walmart.com  (it has music from the MAJOR labels...)

HTH,
Jorge