Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if
you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would
jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have
gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most browsers. Does
anyone know if there's a setting to control this?

poc

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-05-16 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot:
> if
>  you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would
>  jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have
>  gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most browsers. Does
>  anyone know if there's a setting to control this? 
Don't know the answer to your question.  But, I've always just used the Home/End
keys.

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[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 18:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>  On 2020-05-16 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if
>  > you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would
>  > jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have
>  > gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most browsers. Does
>  > anyone know if there's a setting to control this?
>  
>  Don't know the answer to your question.  But, I've always just used the Home/End
> keys. 
That works, but it means looking away from the screen to find them, and
moving your hand away from the mouse.

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[Joe Zeff]

On 05/16/2020 10:04 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  That works, but it means looking away from the screen to find them,
> and
>  moving your hand away from the mouse. 
Then use both hands.  One for the mouse, one for the keypad.  HTH, HAND.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:17 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
>  On 05/16/2020 10:04 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > That works, but it means looking away from the screen to find them, and
>  > moving your hand away from the mouse.
>  
>  Then use both hands.  One for the mouse, one for the keypad.  HTH, HAND. 
As I'm right-handed, this is pretty awkward. Never mind.

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[Joe Zeff]

On 05/16/2020 11:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  As I'm right-handed, this is pretty awkward. Never mind. 
I'm right handed and do it all the time.  Of course, I've always used 
both hands when convenient, so it's not a problem for me.

[ja]

On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot:
> if
>  you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would
>  jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have
>  gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most browsers. Does
>  anyone know if there's a setting to control this?
>  
>  poc
>  _______________________________________________ 
I found this in my notes for F31
Not sure it is of any use !

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:58 +0100, ja wrote:
>  On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if
>  > you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would
>  > jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have
>  > gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most browsers. Does
>  > anyone know if there's a setting to control this?
>  > 
>  > poc
>  > _______________________________________________
>  I found this in my notes for F31
>  Not sure it is of any use ! 
I'll take a look, thanks.

poc

[Tim]

On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot:
>  if you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it
>  would jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to
>  have gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most
>  browsers. Does anyone know if there's a setting to control this? 
My recollection of clicking above or below the scrollbars was that I
got a page-up/page-down effect.  At one point they made it an absolute
click to a certain relative position in the page (scroll bar length
proportional to page length), but it was impossible to use as you
didn't know where else in the page you may want to be.
 
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[Roger Heflin]

I am glad they fixed that "bug".  The absolute setting it did have was
generally useless on larger web pages, and on smaller web pages as Tim
says, it was impossible to figure out where you wanted to be.  I am
not entirely sure who thought it was a good idea, or how they tested
it given it was unusable.

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 8:06 AM Tim via users
<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot:
> > if you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it
> > would jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to
> > have gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most
> > browsers. Does anyone know if there's a setting to control this?
>
> My recollection of clicking above or below the scrollbars was that I
> got a page-up/page-down effect.  At one point they made it an absolute
> click to a certain relative position in the page (scroll bar length
> proportional to page length), but it was impossible to use as you
> didn't know where else in the page you may want to be.
>
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[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:00 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
>  I am glad they fixed that "bug".  The absolute setting it
> did have was
>  
>  generally useless on larger web pages, and on smaller web pages as Tim
>  
>  says, it was impossible to figure out where you wanted to be.  I am
>  
>  not entirely sure who thought it was a good idea, or how they tested
>  
>  it given it was unusable.
>  
>   
Agreed, but to be clear, that's not what I was asking about.

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[John M. Harris Jr]

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 3:42:42 AM MST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot:
> if
>  you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would
>  jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have
>  gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most browsers. Does
>  anyone know if there's a setting to control this? 
Going further off topic, you can disable the silly urlbar changes.

Settings (need to be set to false) are:
browser.urlbar.update1
browser.urlbar.update1.interventions
browser.urlbar.update1.searchTips


browser.urlbar.update1.view.stripHttps if you want to see when you're on an 
HTTPS URL beyond the "lock" icon.

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