12:14 a.m.
hi,
i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
viewed with all the details.
thanks
parshwa
3:27 a.m.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:19 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
Would not a simple: script -a some.log
do the trick re terminal without compromising pw(s)
Have it launched when a console is opened?
Frank
3:19 a.m.
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 22:04 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:21 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> <snip>
> > Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway.
> > An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
> > around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
> > find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
> > time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
> > concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
> > prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
> > do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
> > remember the name.
> >
> >
>
> Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
> the internet?
>
> Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
> still, this might be what's going on.
>
> Kevin
>
... Using a key logger?!?!?!?
Wouldn't it be far easier to look at the Firefox/etc cache?
- Gilboa
What would a browser cache tell you about shell commands?
8:56 a.m.
Frank Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:19 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
Would not a simple: script -a some.log
do the trick re terminal without compromising pw(s)
Have it launched when a console is opened?
Frank
The individual may also want to log IRC, IM, etc. Even "messaging" in
online games might want to be logged...depends on how crafty the
kids/spouse/whoever are.
K
2:02 p.m.
Robin Laing wrote:
Kevin Martin wrote:
>>
>
> Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
> the internet?
>
> Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
> still, this might be what's going on.
>
> Kevin
>
If the parent is that concerned, move the computer to a common room.
Control access to times that the parents are home.
Learn to talk to your kids and explain the consequences of doing the
wrong thing.
FWIW, my kids have their Firefox configured to delete the cache and
cookies on closing.
If they are a concerned parent about what kids are doing, then it
would be easier to look at the data over the network port than a key
logger as that would display sites and most of the data that is sent
if it is captured.
And I agree 100% with what you're saying except:
It's not always as easy as that to control access unless you take away
the keyboard, lock the computer, etc. and
the last statement. Data over the network port won't be caught if it's
encrypted and, while you won't capture the other side of a conversation,
at least a keylogger will capture your kids side of it. The parent can
probably make some deductions about the conversation at that point.
I'm all for trust and "teaching right and wrong" but kids will be kids
and, if it's gotten to the point where the parent is having to keylog
their kids conversations (or feels like they do) then those concepts
have been sidetracked somehow.
Kevin
12:56 p.m.
Kevin Martin wrote:
>
Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
the internet?
Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
still, this might be what's going on.
Kevin
If the parent is that concerned, move the computer to a common room.
Control access to times that the parents are home.
Learn to talk to your kids and explain the consequences of doing the
wrong thing.
FWIW, my kids have their Firefox configured to delete the cache and
cookies on closing.
If they are a concerned parent about what kids are doing, then it would
be easier to look at the data over the network port than a key logger as
that would display sites and most of the data that is sent if it is
captured.
--
Robin Laing
4:51 p.m.
Gilboa Davara wrote:
... Using a key logger?!?!?!?
Wouldn't it be far easier to look at the Firefox/etc cache?
if he only wanted to know history of firefox use.
parshwa,
for what ever reason you wish to use a keylogger, i do not know.
if it were something that i needed, i would log google-linux and search
for what is available.
oops. shame on me. i just told you a way to find something that you might
wish to use for illegal purposes. ;o)
--
tc,hago.
g
.
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
2:04 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:21 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
<snip>
> Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway.
> An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
> around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
> find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
> time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
> concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
> prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
> do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
> remember the name.
>
>
Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
the internet?
Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
still, this might be what's going on.
Kevin
... Using a key logger?!?!?!?
Wouldn't it be far easier to look at the Firefox/etc cache?
- Gilboa
12:21 p.m.
<snip>
Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine
anyway.
An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
remember the name.
Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
the internet?
Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
still, this might be what's going on.
Kevin
12:14 p.m.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 18:26:27 +1000,
David Timms <dtimms(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
>> anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
>> and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
>> viewed with all the details.
> Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so that you can see the
> commands that you had made ?
>
> If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
> keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this
> list.
Why not? As long as he is asking for Fedora specific support it would seem
to be on topic.
Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway.
An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
remember the name.
--
Its a rare that you can trust a beer that comes with a twist off cap
to taste like anything worthy of the title
12:13 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 10:05 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 18:26:27 +1000,
David Timms <dtimms(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
>> anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
>> and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
>> viewed with all the details.
> Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so that you can see the
> commands that you had made ?
>
> If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
> keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this
> list.
Why not? As long as he is asking for Fedora specific support it would seem
to be on topic.
I be to differ.
A. I doubt that this ML was designed to support illegal activities -
on-topic or not.
B. IANAL (and unfamiliar with the U.S. "aiding and abating" clews) but
I'd assume the helping someone commit illegal actions might land you in
very hot water. (And to some extents, land the ML operator in the same
hot water)
Never the less, if the OP's intents are legit (E.g. defensive in
nature), I believe if should have stated it in his post.
- Gilboa
10:05 a.m.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 18:26:27 +1000,
David Timms <dtimms(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:
Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> hi,
>
> i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
> anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
> and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
> viewed with all the details.
Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so that you can see the
commands that you had made ?
If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this
list.
Why not? As long as he is asking for Fedora specific support it would seem
to be on topic.
3:26 a.m.
Parshwa Murdia wrote:
hi,
i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
viewed with all the details.
Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so
that you can see the
commands that you had made ?
If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this list.
DaveT.
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