6:04 p.m.
Hi All,
Fedora 34
$ rpm -qa osmo
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc33.x86_64 (prior version)
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
libnotify-0.7.9-4.fc34.x86_64
As of Fedora 33, when Osmo throws a task popup
with libnotify, I am no longer able to run my
mouse across (no buttons pressed) my task popups
and have them automatically reorganize to the
top right, getting them out of the way. (I have
a lot of tasks going off and some stay in the
middle of my screen.)
I have corresponded with the author of Osmo
and he has made no changes as to how he calls
libnotify.
Is there some missing libnotify configuration that
got overwrote with Fedora 33 that I can fix?
Many thanks,
-T
6:49 p.m.
On 11/07/2021 07:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 34
$ rpm -qa osmo
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc33.x86_64 (prior version)
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
libnotify-0.7.9-4.fc34.x86_64
As of Fedora 33, when Osmo throws a task popup
with libnotify, I am no longer able to run my
mouse across (no buttons pressed) my task popups
and have them automatically reorganize to the
top right, getting them out of the way. (I have
a lot of tasks going off and some stay in the
middle of my screen.)
I have corresponded with the author of Osmo
and he has made no changes as to how he calls
libnotify.
Is there some missing libnotify configuration that
got overwrote with Fedora 33 that I can fix?
I don't use osmo. But, first, are you saying you have 2 versions showing when you do
rpm -q?
You're using Xfce, yes?
As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a few tasks. They pop up
in the upper right of
the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
Is something else supposed to happen?
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7:21 p.m.
On 7/10/21 4:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 07:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 34
> $ rpm -qa osmo
> osmo-0.4.2-2.fc33.x86_64 (prior version)
> osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
> libnotify-0.7.9-4.fc34.x86_64
>
> As of Fedora 33, when Osmo throws a task popup
> with libnotify, I am no longer able to run my
> mouse across (no buttons pressed) my task popups
> and have them automatically reorganize to the
> top right, getting them out of the way. (I have
> a lot of tasks going off and some stay in the
> middle of my screen.)
>
> I have corresponded with the author of Osmo
> and he has made no changes as to how he calls
> libnotify.
>
> Is there some missing libnotify configuration that
> got overwrote with Fedora 33 that I can fix?
>
I don't use osmo. But, first, are you saying you have 2 versions
showing when you do rpm -q?
Only one. I only showed the prior version that was running
under FC33 for historical purposes
You're using Xfce, yes?
Xfce 4.14
Sorry, forgot that.
As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a
few
tasks. They pop up in the upper right of
the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
Is something else supposed to happen?
When you get several of these pop up, for example four,
you "remind me later" or "done" the middle two, then
mouse over the bottom one and it should rearrange
to just under the first one.
I can't live without Osmo. You should play with it a bit
and see if you like it.
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7:40 p.m.
On 11/07/2021 08:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
> You're using Xfce, yes?
Xfce 4.14
Sorry, forgot that.
> As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a few tasks. They
pop up in the upper right of
> the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
>
> Is something else supposed to happen?
When you get several of these pop up, for example four,
you "remind me later" or "done" the middle two, then
mouse over the bottom one and it should rearrange
to just under the first one.
I can't live without Osmo. You should play with it a bit
and see if you like it.
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one
below the other.
Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other
items did
not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
I'm quite happy with T-Bird's calendar and the ability to sync multiple
google-calendars. It allows me
to see my wife's (a non-linux user) calendar on my desktop as well as my mobile
devices. So, I won't
be using osmo.
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9:51 p.m.
On 7/10/21 5:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 08:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
>
>>
>> You're using Xfce, yes?
>
> Xfce 4.14
> Sorry, forgot that.
>
>
>> As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a few
>> tasks. They pop up in the upper right of
>> the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
>>
>> Is something else supposed to happen?
>
> When you get several of these pop up, for example four,
> you "remind me later" or "done" the middle two, then
> mouse over the bottom one and it should rearrange
> to just under the first one.
>
> I can't live without Osmo. You should play with it a bit
> and see if you like it.
>
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the
upper right, one below the other.
Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the
screen. The other items did
not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
10:25 p.m.
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right,
one below the other.
> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The
other items did
> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the
right side of the
display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the
remaining tasks. Nothing was
reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see
how it would
be libnotify's responsibility.
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11:02 p.m.
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the
>> upper right, one below the other.
>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave
>> the screen. The other items did
>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>
> No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
chronological order on the right side of the
display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the
remaining tasks. Nothing was
reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks
but can't see how it would
be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
11:12 p.m.
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>
>>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper
right, one below the other.
>>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the
screen. The other items did
>>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>>
>> No. Not until you mouse over them
>
> I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on
the right side of the
> display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the
remaining tasks. Nothing was
> reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
>
> I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't
see how it would
> be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
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11:51 p.m.
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
>>>> the upper right, one below the other.
>>>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave
>>>> the screen. The other items did
>>>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>>>
>>> No. Not until you mouse over them
>>
>> I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
>> chronological order on the right side of the
>> display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over
>> the remaining tasks. Nothing was
>> reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
>>
>> I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining
>> tasks but can't see how it would
>> be libnotify's responsibility.
>
> Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange
feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
12:57 a.m.
On 7/10/21 9:51 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
>>>>> the upper right, one below the other.
>>>>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to
>>>>> leave the screen. The other items did
>>>>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>>>>
>>>> No. Not until you mouse over them
>>>
>>> I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
>>> chronological order on the right side of the
>>> display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over
>>> the remaining tasks. Nothing was
>>> reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining
>>> tasks but can't see how it would
>>> be libnotify's responsibility.
>>
>> Not "responsibility", feature.
>
> I do not understand that comment.
>
> Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
>
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange
feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
I just posted:
libnotify stoped rearranging popups
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981068
2:34 a.m.
On 11/07/2021 13:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just posted:
libnotify stoped rearranging popups
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981068
See my other message.
I think you jumped the gun.
Since libnotify interfaces with the desktop's notify daemon I would look more towards
xfce4-notifyd.
And, as I said, F32Xfce didn't work any different/better than F34Xfce. Both are
running lightdm if that matters
at all. So, why it was working for you previously is unknown to me.
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2:30 a.m.
On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the
upper right, one below the other.
>>>>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave
the screen. The other items did
>>>>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>>>>
>>>> No. Not until you mouse over them
>>>
>>> I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological
order on the right side of the
>>> display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over
the remaining tasks. Nothing was
>>> reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but
can't see how it would
>>> be libnotify's responsibility.
>>
>> Not "responsibility", feature.
>
> I do not understand that comment.
>
> Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
>
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange
feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE and F34 KDE
vm's.
So....
[egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
[egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above the task bar.
However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from bottom to top was:
F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries above to drop
down to take the vacated item.
Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image and fully updated it.
F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34 XFCE didn't.
So, I don't know how you had it "working".
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6:13 p.m.
On 7/11/21 12:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
>>>>>> the upper right, one below the other.
>>>>>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to
>>>>>> leave the screen. The other items did
>>>>>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. Not until you mouse over them
>>>>
>>>> I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
>>>> chronological order on the right side of the
>>>> display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused
over
>>>> the remaining tasks. Nothing was
>>>> reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining
>>>> tasks but can't see how it would
>>>> be libnotify's responsibility.
>>>
>>> Not "responsibility", feature.
>>
>> I do not understand that comment.
>>
>> Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
>>
>
> I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange
> feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
>
I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE and
F34 KDE vm's.
So....
[egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
[egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo
osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above the
task bar.
However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from bottom
to top was:
F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries above
to drop down to take the vacated item.
Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image and
fully updated it.
F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34 XFCE
didn't. So, I don't know how you had it "working".
I installed Fedora Workstation in a VM (gnome?). All
the Osmo popups pop on top of each other and disappear
if you mouse over them
Did you use KDE?
7 p.m.
On 12/07/2021 07:13, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/11/21 12:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>> On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>>> On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined
up in the upper right, one below the other.
>>>>>>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to
leave the screen. The other items did
>>>>>>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. Not until you mouse over them
>>>>>
>>>>> I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
chronological order on the right side of the
>>>>> display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I
moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was
>>>>> reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining
tasks but can't see how it would
>>>>> be libnotify's responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> Not "responsibility", feature.
>>>
>>> I do not understand that comment.
>>>
>>> Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
>>>
>>
>> I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange
>> feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
>>
>
> I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE and F34 KDE
vm's.
>
> So....
>
> [egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo
> osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
>
> [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo
> osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
>
> On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
>
> On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above the task bar.
>
> However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from bottom to top was:
>
> F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
> F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
>
> But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries above to
drop down to take the vacated item.
>
> Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image and fully updated
it.
>
> F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34 XFCE
didn't. So, I don't know how you had it "working".
I installed Fedora Workstation in a VM (gnome?). All
the Osmo popups pop on top of each other and disappear
if you mouse over them
Did you use KDE?
As written above, I did test on F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
I tried osmo just now on an F34 Workstation (GNOME xorg) and it acts as you noted. Not
very well integrated with
GNOME.
I'm even more happy with T-Bird and google calendar after these experiments.
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8:43 p.m.
On 7/11/21 5:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/07/2021 07:13, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 7/11/21 12:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>>> On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all
lined up
>>>>>>>> in the upper right, one below the other.
>>>>>>>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that
item to
>>>>>>>> leave the screen. The other items did
>>>>>>>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. Not until you mouse over them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in
>>>>>> chronological order on the right side of the
>>>>>> display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I
moused
>>>>>> over the remaining tasks. Nothing was
>>>>>> reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining
>>>>>> tasks but can't see how it would
>>>>>> be libnotify's responsibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not "responsibility", feature.
>>>>
>>>> I do not understand that comment.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange
>>> feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
>>>
>>
>> I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE
>> and F34 KDE vm's.
>>
>> So....
>>
>> [egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo
>> osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
>>
>> [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo
>> osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
>>
>> On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
>>
>> On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above
>> the task bar.
>>
>> However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from
>> bottom to top was:
>>
>> F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
>> F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
>>
>> But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries
>> above to drop down to take the vacated item.
>>
>> Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image
>> and fully updated it.
>>
>> F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34
>> XFCE didn't. So, I don't know how you had it "working".
>
> I installed Fedora Workstation in a VM (gnome?). All
> the Osmo popups pop on top of each other and disappear
> if you mouse over them
>
> Did you use KDE?
As written above, I did test on F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
I tried osmo just now on an F34 Workstation (GNOME xorg) and it acts as
you noted. Not very well integrated with
GNOME.
I'm even more happy with T-Bird and google calendar after these
experiments.
I am about to create a KDE VM and test Osmo
Never did get along with Thunderbird calendar.
Just don't like it.
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