upgrading to fedora core 2

[Rafael Alexandre Schmitt]

Hi all,

It will be possible to upgrade from fedora core 1 to core 2 trough apt
or yum?

[Naoki]

I'm upgrading from 7.3, 8, and 9 via up2date and that's working out ok
for me.
I need to manually fix some dependencies but nothing too arduous.

In theory no problem.

-n.

On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 09:26, Rafael Alexandre Schmitt wrote:

>  Hi all,
>  
>  It will be possible to upgrade from fedora core 1 to core 2 trough apt
>  or yum?
>

[Matthew Zimmerman]

[edited top-post]

Naoki wrote:
>  On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 09:26, Rafael Alexandre Schmitt wrote:
>  >
>  >It will be possible to upgrade from fedora core 1 to core 2 trough apt
>  >or yum?
>  >
>
>  I'm upgrading from 7.3, 8, and 9 via up2date and that's working out ok 
>  for me.
>  I need to manually fix some dependencies but nothing too arduous.
>  
>  In theory no problem. 
In practice, there are some:

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-January/msg02421.html

-- 
       Matt

       Matthew Zimmerman
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[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 09:03 1/22/2004, you wrote:
> In practice, there are some [issues with upgrading from RHL to Fedora
> via 
> apt/yum]:
>
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-January/msg02421.html 
The original question was about upgrading from FC1 to FC2 via apt/yum. I 
think the original answer of "in theory, no problem" may or may not be 
right but is reasonable. The fact that X or Y problem existed upgrading 
from a previous (not even the latest) version of RHL is not relevant to 
that question, nor does it imply that the same problems will continue to exist.


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[Matthew Zimmerman]

Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
>  At 09:03 1/22/2004, you wrote:
>  
> > In practice, there are some [issues with upgrading from RHL to Fedora 
> > via apt/yum]:
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-January/msg02421.html
>  
>  The original question was about upgrading from FC1 to FC2 via apt/yum. I 
>  think the original answer of "in theory, no problem" may or may not be 
>  right but is reasonable. The fact that X or Y problem existed upgrading 
>  from a previous (not even the latest) version of RHL is not relevant to 
>  that question, nor does it imply that the same problems will continue to 
>  exist. 
Yes, that is true. And in fact I get the impression few people have had 
trouble with "yum upgrade"s so far. But I merely report the fact some 
people have pointed out that problems are theoretically possible.

The article I quoted doesn't refer to problems with a previous upgrade, 
it discusses the issues that *are* likely to arise in the future. 
Specifically, if there is a major update of Python or glibc or anything 
else that yum (or up2date or apt) depends upon that causes it to break 
during the upgrade process, you're up the proverbial creek (at least 
until you pop in the CD and fire up anaconda).

It might not happen; it appears not to have happened for 8 -> 9 or
9 -> FC1. But it *could* happen in the future, and AFAIK the developers 
haven't designed a system to specifically prevent it. (Please correct
me if I'm wrong!)

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[Alexandre Strube]

Em Ter, 2004-01-20 às 22:26, Rafael Alexandre Schmitt escreveu:

>  It will be possible to upgrade from fedora core 1 to core 2 trough
> apt
>  or yum?
>   
Much probably, as it's possible to migrate even from rh7 to FC1. There
is a dependency removal which scares me, though. As I use squirrelmail
as my webmail system, and seems that they're removing imap support on
fedora, I will have to stick with fc1 till it's resolved...

[Pedro Fernandes Macedo]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:50:30 -0300, Alexandre <surak> escreveu:

>  Much probably, as it's possible to migrate even from rh7 to FC1.
> There
>  is a dependency removal which scares me, though. As I use squirrelmail
>  as my webmail system, and seems that they're removing imap support on
>  fedora, I will have to stick with fc1 till it's resolved... 
You dont need to worry. The imap server that's being removed is the UW-imap server due
to some license issues.. Dovecot and cyrus-imapd are available . I've set up a full
mail server on FC1 using squirrelmail , postfix and dovecot on my home machine (just for
practice) and it worked perfectly. Squirrelmail has on its configuration some special
tricks when dealing with certain imap servers.. For dovecot , just set it as
"other" under imap server type.. from the config.pl script:

Each IMAP server has its own quirks.  As much as we tried to stick
to standards, it doesn't help much if the IMAP server doesn't follow
the same principles.  We have made some work-arounds for some of
these servers.  If you would like to use them, please select your
IMAP server.  If you do not wish to use these work-arounds, you can
set this to "other", and none will be used.
    cyrus      = Cyrus IMAP server
    uw         = University of Washington's IMAP server
    exchange   = Microsoft Exchange IMAP server
    courier    = Courier IMAP server
    macosx     = Mac OS X Mailserver
    other      = Not one of the above servers

from the rpm package on FC1: 
capeta:/var/www/yum/1/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS->rpm -qRp squirrelmail-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
/bin/sh  
/usr/bin/env  
/usr/sbin/sendmail  
aspell  
config(squirrelmail) = 1.4.0-1
httpd  
httpd  
perl  
perl  
perl(Cwd)  
perl(IO::Socket)  
php >= 4.0.4
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
tmpwatch >= 2.8

So imap is not an explicit dependency ( mainly because you can set up squirrelmail on a
dedicated machine , and the mail server is on other server , just like we have here...)

--------------------
Pedro Fernandes Macedo

[Joel Jaeggli]

dovecot is substantially lower in overhead than uw imap as well... It's 
really a big win for imap as far as I'm concerned...

joelja

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote:

>  On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:50:30 -0300, Alexandre <surak>
> escreveu:
>  
>  > Much probably, as it's possible to migrate even from rh7 to FC1. There
>  > is a dependency removal which scares me, though. As I use squirrelmail
>  > as my webmail system, and seems that they're removing imap support on
>  > fedora, I will have to stick with fc1 till it's resolved...
>  
>  You dont need to worry. The imap server that's being removed is the UW-imap server
> due to some license issues.. Dovecot and cyrus-imapd are available . I've set up a
> full mail server on FC1 using squirrelmail , postfix and dovecot on my home machine (just
> for practice) and it worked perfectly. Squirrelmail has on its configuration some special
> tricks when dealing with certain imap servers.. For dovecot , just set it as
> "other" under imap server type.. from the config.pl script:
>  
>  Each IMAP server has its own quirks.  As much as we tried to stick
>  to standards, it doesn't help much if the IMAP server doesn't follow
>  the same principles.  We have made some work-arounds for some of
>  these servers.  If you would like to use them, please select your
>  IMAP server.  If you do not wish to use these work-arounds, you can
>  set this to "other", and none will be used.
>      cyrus      = Cyrus IMAP server
>      uw         = University of Washington's IMAP server
>      exchange   = Microsoft Exchange IMAP server
>      courier    = Courier IMAP server
>      macosx     = Mac OS X Mailserver
>      other      = Not one of the above servers
>  
>  from the rpm package on FC1: 
>  capeta:/var/www/yum/1/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS->rpm -qRp squirrelmail-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
>  /bin/sh  
>  /usr/bin/env  
>  /usr/sbin/sendmail  
>  aspell  
>  config(squirrelmail) = 1.4.0-1
>  httpd  
>  httpd  
>  perl  
>  perl  
>  perl(Cwd)  
>  perl(IO::Socket)  
>  php >= 4.0.4
>  rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
>  rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
>  tmpwatch >= 2.8
>  
>  So imap is not an explicit dependency ( mainly because you can set up squirrelmail on a
> dedicated machine , and the mail server is on other server , just like we have here...)
>  
>  --------------------
>  Pedro Fernandes Macedo
>  
>  
>   
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[William Hooper]

Alexandre said:
>  Em Ter, 2004-01-20 às 22:26, Rafael Alexandre Schmitt escreveu:
>
> > It will be possible to upgrade from fedora core 1 to core 2 trough apt
> > or yum?
> > 
Please discus test releases on Fedora-Test-List.

>  Much probably, as it's possible to migrate even from rh7 to FC1.
> There
>  is a dependency removal which scares me, though. As I use squirrelmail
>  as my webmail system, and seems that they're removing imap support on
>  fedora, I will have to stick with fc1 till it's resolved... 
???
Looking at the package list:
cyrus-imapd-2.1.16-2.i386.rpm
dovecot-0.99.10.4-1.i386.rpm

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