5:25 p.m.
This is unbelievable. I'm outraged. I've been going in circles trying
to find what executable I need to point my browser to since I click on
a Java Web Start app launching link (on a properly configured Firefox
with OpenJDK java and Icedtea plug-in working, and the bwoser offers
me to open the .jnlp file with "gedit". ;-P
Google searches do not bring any information.
On Windows java there's a javaws.exe as part of the JRE and that takes
care of that (and needless to say Java JRE install automagically
associates JNLP links to javaws.exe at the browser level (helper app).
So the end user just "installs java" and is done with it.
Now, I've argued before that OpenJDK should include IcedTea as part of
the same package, because, heck, it's Java. I remember I got pummeled
for suggesting so "Java is java, and the plug-in is the plug-in" was
the general concensus. Since I don't want to argue, at this point I'd
settle for the package name to have an alias like "openjdk-plugin"
becase, gee, not everyone in the world knows that the open source java
has a plugin with a totally unrelated name to the open source java
package name (OpenJDK).
The IcedTea web page is a joke. Done by developers, for developers,
but with ZERO information for the end user who might just happen to be
in need to find how to launch a JWS app with his browser.
So here I am, looking at a browser that tells me if I want to open a
.jnlp link with a text editor, instead of looking at the Java Web
Start app I want to launch. The Icedtea page provides no information
of use, and google searches have me going in circles.
Read in Borat's tone: "GREAT SUCCESS!!"
FC
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7:24 a.m.
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 05:48, suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux(a)gmail.com> wrote:
or by some script while
installation (I have no idea what that could be).
Exactly. IMHO. Installation should be seamless as in the Windows JRE
install, where you get a fully functioning plug-in *and* Java Web
Start.
Remember that once upon a time the plug-in had to be manually copied
and symlinks made by hand by the end user if he wanted to run applets.
Things have slowly progressed and that is not needed anymore, rpm
install of icedtea takes care of that. Well, having a fully
functioning JWS in a seamless fashion for the end user, is the last
hurdle.
I will try to ask around the Mozilla techies...
FC
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3:48 a.m.
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 01:00, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think you should investigate that way... you need to register the
new mime types in the browser, otherwise the browser pops up that
dialog that says "what app do you want to use to open this extraneous
thing that the cat just dragged in and I'm opening up for the first
time"? EVEN if the OS has already a registered mime type...
Once upon a time(Mozilla 1.x days), it was a matter of searching for
user profile folders and fiddling with user.js, but I'm not sure what
the right approach would be...
Not everyone uses Firefox. This should be something done on the FF
side by the user (as T.C. mentioned), or by some script while
installation (I have no idea what that could be).
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
6 p.m.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 18:46, Deepak Bhole <dbhole(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Is something missing above?
Deepak
http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions#Managing_conten...
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Changing_media_handling_behaviour
https://forums.mozilla.org/addons/viewtopic.php?p=10876&sid=939a99219...
I think you should investigate that way... you need to register the
new mime types in the browser, otherwise the browser pops up that
dialog that says "what app do you want to use to open this extraneous
thing that the cat just dragged in and I'm opening up for the first
time"? EVEN if the OS has already a registered mime type...
Once upon a time(Mozilla 1.x days), it was a matter of searching for
user profile folders and fiddling with user.js, but I'm not sure what
the right approach would be...
FC
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4:46 p.m.
* Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> [2012-04-13 07:26]:
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 04:11, T.C. Hollingsworth
<tchollingsworth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> If you're using Firefox, just click on a JNLP file, choose Other from
> the "Open with" dropdown, enter "/usr/bin/javaws", and check the
"Do
> this automatically" box, and you'll be all set.
Yes, I eventually found that.
I will bug the Icedtead devs however to have them improve the install routine.
We do set up a file association, so it should work with Firefox,
Nautilus, etc.:
$ rpm -q --scripts icedtea-web
...
...
posttrans scriptlet (using /bin/sh):
update-desktop-database &> /dev/null || :
...
$ rpm -ql icedtea-web | grep .desktop
/usr/share/applications/itweb-settings.desktop
/usr/share/applications/javaws.desktop
$ cat /usr/share/applications/javaws.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=IcedTea Web Start
Comment=IcedTea Application Launcher
Exec=/usr/bin/javaws.itweb %f
Icon=javaws
Terminal=false
Type=Application
NoDisplay=true
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=application/x-java-jnlp-file;
X-Desktop-File-Install-Version=0.18
Is something missing above?
Deepak
FC
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6:25 a.m.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 04:11, T.C. Hollingsworth
<tchollingsworth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If you're using Firefox, just click on a JNLP file, choose Other
from
the "Open with" dropdown, enter "/usr/bin/javaws", and check the
"Do
this automatically" box, and you'll be all set.
Yes, I eventually found that.
I will bug the Icedtead devs however to have them improve the install routine.
FC
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2:11 a.m.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 19:25, Fernando Cassia
<fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> So here I am, looking at a browser that tells me if I want to open a
> .jnlp link with a text editor, instead of looking at the Java Web
> Start app I want to launch. The Icedtea page provides no information
> of use, and google searches have me going in circles.
D'oh! there is a /bin/javaws on my system. I guess IcedTea put it there.
It's just not associated as a helper app in the browser.
If you're using Firefox, just click on a JNLP file, choose Other from
the "Open with" dropdown, enter "/usr/bin/javaws", and check the
"Do
this automatically" box, and you'll be all set.
-T.C.
11:18 p.m.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 01:03, Shakthi Kannan <shakthimaan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have icedtea-web installed on a Fedora 15 system, and it provides
javaws. I just save the .jnlp file, and then run it with javaws using:
$ javaws file.jnlp
SK
Yes, but that's not the idea of Java Web Start. The idea of Java Web
Start is that you click a web link and automagically launch an
application (download it if not cached, or launch it from the Java
cache dir if ran previously).
FC
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11:03 p.m.
Hi,
--- On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
| D'oh! there is a /bin/javaws on my system. I guess IcedTea put it there.
| It's just not associated as a helper app in the browser.
\--
I have icedtea-web installed on a Fedora 15 system, and it provides
javaws. I just save the .jnlp file, and then run it with javaws using:
$ javaws file.jnlp
SK
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5:28 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 19:25, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So here I am, looking at a browser that tells me if I want to open a
.jnlp link with a text editor, instead of looking at the Java Web
Start app I want to launch. The Icedtea page provides no information
of use, and google searches have me going in circles.
D'oh! there is a /bin/javaws on my system. I guess IcedTea put it there.
It's just not associated as a helper app in the browser.
I guess I'll have to join the icedtead mailing list (if there's one).
FC
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