Can't copy files in *.dat form VCD

[Parameshwara Bhat]

Hello List,

I have played files with extensions *.dat with both 'xine' and 
'mplayer'.The vcd of the film "Unfaithful" has three files in the
'MPEG' 
folder,Music01.dat,Music02.dat,Music03.dat.I played this file from the cd 
in Windows Media player as well as SiS mmplayer.Now I copied those files 
to a separate directory and later opened them using both Mplayer and Xine.

Xine even has a file filter for *.dat type of files.Mplayer like its 
namesake Mediaplayer doesn't automatically filter the files but once 
selected using filter "all files",it plays it anyway.But both these 
programs fail to run the same files from the CD when tried with Play 
File.(They can very well play the VCD containing these files)whereas if 
these files are copied to harddisk they can play it.

Curiously within Linux,these files cannot be copied off CD.But,once in 
Windows,you can copy them and store them.Both Xine and Mplayer play them 
now once they are stored like this. And that's how VCDs are kept on the 
harddisk by all my friends here.

This is curious.Could anybody shed more light?

Parameshwara Bhat

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[Edward Dekkers]

Parameshwara Bhat wrote:

>  Hello List,
>  
>  I have played files with extensions *.dat with both 'xine' and 
>  'mplayer'.The vcd of the film "Unfaithful" has three files in the
> 'MPEG' 
>  folder,Music01.dat,Music02.dat,Music03.dat.I played this file from the 
>  cd in Windows Media player as well as SiS mmplayer.Now I copied those 
>  files to a separate directory and later opened them using both Mplayer 
>  and Xine.
>  
>  Xine even has a file filter for *.dat type of files.Mplayer like its 
>  namesake Mediaplayer doesn't automatically filter the files but once 
>  selected using filter "all files",it plays it anyway.But both these 
>  programs fail to run the same files from the CD when tried with Play 
>  File.(They can very well play the VCD containing these files)whereas if 
>  these files are copied to harddisk they can play it.
>  
>  Curiously within Linux,these files cannot be copied off CD.But,once in 
>  Windows,you can copy them and store them.Both Xine and Mplayer play them 
>  now once they are stored like this. And that's how VCDs are kept on the 
>  harddisk by all my friends here.
>  
>  This is curious.Could anybody shed more light? 
This discussion has been had before. A .DAT file on a VCD is not simply 
a renamed MPG file, but very similar.

The VCD format has less check summing bits on the CD than a standard 
data CD, as an error on the disk is less likely to cause serious 
problems, and you can actually fit more data on a VCD than a regular 
one. Not significant amounts, but a little more.

If you're going to store .DAT files on your hard drive like that to play 
them, you're wasting space. I suggest stripping the extra overhead of 
the DAT and leave yourself with an mpeg instead.

Search google on how to do it. I've done it before - there's not much to it.

Regards,
Ed.

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 22:28, Edward wrote:
>  Parameshwara Bhat wrote:
>  
>  > Hello List,
>  > 
>  > I have played files with extensions *.dat with both 'xine' and 
>  > 'mplayer'.The vcd of the film "Unfaithful" has three files in the
> 'MPEG' 
>  > folder,Music01.dat,Music02.dat,Music03.dat.I played this file from the 
>  > cd in Windows Media player as well as SiS mmplayer.Now I copied those 
>  > files to a separate directory and later opened them using both Mplayer 
>  > and Xine.
>  > 
>  > Xine even has a file filter for *.dat type of files.Mplayer like its 
>  > namesake Mediaplayer doesn't automatically filter the files but once 
>  > selected using filter "all files",it plays it anyway.But both these 
>  > programs fail to run the same files from the CD when tried with Play 
>  > File.(They can very well play the VCD containing these files)whereas if 
>  > these files are copied to harddisk they can play it.
>  > 
>  > Curiously within Linux,these files cannot be copied off CD.But,once in 
>  > Windows,you can copy them and store them.Both Xine and Mplayer play them 
>  > now once they are stored like this. And that's how VCDs are kept on the 
>  > harddisk by all my friends here.
>  > 
>  > This is curious.Could anybody shed more light? 
>  If you're going to store .DAT files on your hard drive like that
> to play 
>  them, you're wasting space. I suggest stripping the extra overhead of 
>  the DAT and leave yourself with an mpeg instead. 
Well, I dont' know about stripping out the dat to get a mpg but I do
know how to copy/rip out the DAT files.

You need the CDFS package. (google)

[snip]
Mount a cdrom with something like

        mount -t cdfs -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdfs

ISO images will show up as "sessions1_?.iso" or "session-?.iso", HFS
images as "apple.hfs",
boot images as "boot.image", VideoCD tracks as "videocd-?.mpeg" and
audio tracks as
"track-?.wav". ISO, HFS and boot images can be mounted loopback.

You can specify the uid, gid and mode that should be used for the files.
E.g

        mount -t cdfs -o ro,uid=0,mode=600 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdfs



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[Kent Emia]

hi there i have a similar problem with you but i think im the worst of
the worst ...

On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 14:50, Parameshwara Bhat wrote:
>  Hello List,
>  
>  I have played files with extensions *.dat with both 'xine' and 
>  'mplayer'.The vcd of the film "Unfaithful" has three files in the
> 'MPEG' 
>  folder,Music01.dat,Music02.dat,Music03.dat.I played this file from the cd 
>  in Windows Media player as well as SiS mmplayer.Now I copied those files 
>  to a separate directory and later opened them using both Mplayer and Xine. 
i can't play .dat file both in xine ... im using the gui in the mplayer
its fine ... don't know whats wrong with my xine .... 


>  
>  Xine even has a file filter for *.dat type of files.Mplayer like its 
>  namesake Mediaplayer doesn't automatically filter the files but once 
>  selected using filter "all files",it plays it anyway.But both these 
>  programs fail to run the same files from the CD when tried with Play 
>  File.(They can very well play the VCD containing these files)whereas if 
>  these files are copied to harddisk they can play it.
>  
>  Curiously within Linux,these files cannot be copied off CD.But,once in 
>  Windows,you can copy them and store them.Both Xine and Mplayer play them 
>  now once they are stored like this. And that's how VCDs are kept on the 
>  harddisk by all my friends here. 
i tried extracting/copying the .dat file from a windows pc ... i can ...


>  
>  This is curious.Could anybody shed more light?
>  
>  Parameshwara Bhat
>  
>  Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ 
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Kent Emia

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 20:35, Kent Emia wrote:
>  hi there i have a similar problem with you but i think im the worst
> of
>  the worst ...
>  
>  On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 14:50, Parameshwara Bhat wrote:
>  > Hello List,
>  > 
>  > I have played files with extensions *.dat with both 'xine' and 
>  > 'mplayer'.The vcd of the film "Unfaithful" has three files in the
> 'MPEG' 
>  > folder,Music01.dat,Music02.dat,Music03.dat.I played this file from the cd 
>  > in Windows Media player as well as SiS mmplayer.Now I copied those files 
>  > to a separate directory and later opened them using both Mplayer and Xine.
>  
>  i can't play .dat file both in xine ... im using the gui in the mplayer
>  its fine ... don't know whats wrong with my xine .... 
Try to "open VCD" instead of playing the file directly.

>  > 
>  > Xine even has a file filter for *.dat type of files.Mplayer like its 
>  > namesake Mediaplayer doesn't automatically filter the files but once 
>  > selected using filter "all files",it plays it anyway.But both these 
>  > programs fail to run the same files from the CD when tried with Play 
>  > File.(They can very well play the VCD containing these files)whereas if 
>  > these files are copied to harddisk they can play it.
>  > 
>  > Curiously within Linux,these files cannot be copied off CD.But,once in 
>  > Windows,you can copy them and store them.Both Xine and Mplayer play them 
>  > now once they are stored like this. And that's how VCDs are kept on the 
>  > harddisk by all my friends here.
>  
>  i tried extracting/copying the .dat file from a windows pc ... i can ...
>   
I've posted a resolution here previously. Use CDFS


>  
>  > 
>  > This is curious.Could anybody shed more light?
>  > 
>  > Parameshwara Bhat
>  > 
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>  Kent Emia 
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[Parameshwara Bhat]

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 11:35:42 +0800, Kent Emia <kent-cdr(a)greendot.com.ph&gt; 
wrote:

>  hi there i have a similar problem with you but i think im the worst
> of
>  the worst ...
>
>  On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 14:50, Parameshwara Bhat wrote:
> > Hello List,
> >
> > I have played files with extensions *.dat with both 'xine' and
> > 'mplayer'.The vcd of the film "Unfaithful" has three files in the
> 'MPEG'
> > folder,Music01.dat,Music02.dat,Music03.dat.I played this file from the 
> > cd
> > in Windows Media player as well as SiS mmplayer.Now I copied those files
> > to a separate directory and later opened them using both Mplayer and 
> > Xine.
>
>  i can't play .dat file both in xine ... im using the gui in the mplayer
>  its fine ... don't know whats wrong with my xine .... 
You can play *.dat files - not off VCD - but if you copy them in Windows 
to a medium ( e.g.,hard-disk )
and then open in Xine or Mplayer. I am told there is a tool for that in 
Linux too. Not tried yet.

Your version of Xine may be broken. It seems to keep breaking always.

> >
> > Xine even has a file filter for *.dat type of files.Mplayer like its
> > namesake Mediaplayer doesn't automatically filter the files but once
> > selected using filter "all files",it plays it anyway.But both these
> > programs fail to run the same files from the CD when tried with Play
> > File.(They can very well play the VCD containing these files)whereas if
> > these files are copied to harddisk they can play it.
> >
> > Curiously within Linux,these files cannot be copied off CD.But,once in
> > Windows,you can copy them and store them.Both Xine and Mplayer play them
> > now once they are stored like this. And that's how VCDs are kept on the
> > harddisk by all my friends here.
>
>  i tried extracting/copying the .dat file from a windows pc ... i can ...
>
>
> >
> > This is curious.Could anybody shed more light?
> >
> > Parameshwara Bhat
> > 
Parameshwara Bhat

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