Taskbar Panel in Plasma Won't Autohide

[Stephen Morris]

Hi,

I am trying to get the Taskbar Panel to autohide, but when I click on 
the options button in the panel, the left, right and center options are 
permanently highlighted but seem to function in terms of moving the 
indicator that reflects which option is active. Also the 'Always 
Visible', 'Auto Hide', 'Windows can Cover' and 'Windows go Below' 
options are also permanently highlighted but selecting the 2nd or 3rd 
option does nothing. It appears these options are highlighted because 
the colour scheme I am using, which is forget-me-not thinks they are 
push buttons.

Does anyone know why these don't work anymore in Fedora 23? I am using 
Breeze for the Windows Style and Windows Decorations themes.

regards,

Steve

[Stephen Morris]

On 19/05/16 11:30, Stephen Morris wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to get the Taskbar Panel to autohide, but when I click on 
> the options button in the panel, the left, right and center options 
> are permanently highlighted but seem to function in terms of moving 
> the indicator that reflects which option is active. Also the 'Always 
> Visible', 'Auto Hide', 'Windows can Cover' and 'Windows go Below' 
> options are also permanently highlighted but selecting the 2nd or 3rd 
> option does nothing. It appears these options are highlighted because 
> the colour scheme I am using, which is forget-me-not thinks they are 
> push buttons.
>
> Does anyone know why these don't work anymore in Fedora 23? I am using 
> Breeze for the Windows Style and Windows Decorations themes.

I forgot to mention this is in Plasma.
When I said it doesn't work anymore, what I meant was Autohide worked in 
Fedora versions 18 to 22 but not in Fedora 23.
> regards,
> Steve
>
> users mailing list
> [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe or change subscription options:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/21/16 08:27, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 19/05/16 11:30, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to get the Taskbar Panel to autohide, but when I click on the options
> > button in the panel, the left, right and center options are permanently highlighted but
> > seem to function in terms of moving the indicator that reflects which option is active.
> > Also the 'Always Visible', 'Auto Hide', 'Windows can Cover' and 'Windows go Below'
> > options are also permanently highlighted but selecting the 2nd or 3rd option does
> > nothing. It appears these options are highlighted because the colour scheme I am using,
> > which is forget-me-not thinks they are push buttons.
> >
> > Does anyone know why these don't work anymore in Fedora 23? I am using
> > Breeze for the Windows Style and Windows Decorations themes.
>
> I forgot to mention this is in Plasma.
> When I said it doesn't work anymore, what I meant was Autohide worked in
> Fedora versions 18 to 22 but not in Fedora 23.

It seems to be broken for me as well.  I didn't notice it, since I don't use it.

You may want to post to the KDE list as there are more folks hanging out their with KDE
experience.  I could not find a bugzilla in either Redhat's BZ or on KDE.org.  But I tend
not to phrase my queries well.  :-)

[Colin J Thomson]

On 21/05/2016 03:23, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/21/16 08:27, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 19/05/16 11:30, Stephen Morris wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to get the Taskbar Panel to autohide, but when I click on 
> the options
> button in the panel, the left, right and center options are permanently 
> highlighted but
> seem to function in terms of moving the indicator that reflects which 
> option is active.
> Also the 'Always Visible', 'Auto Hide', 'Windows can Cover' and 
> 'Windows go Below'
> options are also permanently highlighted but selecting the 2nd or 3rd 
> option does
> nothing. It appears these options are highlighted because the colour 
> scheme I am using,
> which is forget-me-not thinks they are push buttons.
>
> Does anyone know why these don't work anymore in Fedora 23? I am using
> Breeze for the Windows Style and Windows Decorations themes.
> I forgot to mention this is in Plasma.
> When I said it doesn't work anymore, what I meant was Autohide worked 
> in
> Fedora versions 18 to 22 but not in Fedora 23.
>
> It seems to be broken for me as well.  I didn't notice it, since I 
> don't use it.
>
> You may want to post to the KDE list as there are more folks hanging
> out their with KDE
> experience.  I could not find a bugzilla in either Redhat's BZ or on
> KDE.org.  But I tend
> not to phrase my queries well.  :-)

It's probably this bug report :-)

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105

One of those problem bugs as its works fine here on F23 and now since
upgrading on F24 as well. Using nouveau here.

Colin

[Stephen Morris]

On 22/05/16 07:57, Colin J Thomson wrote:
> On 21/05/2016 03:23, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 05/21/16 08:27, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > On 19/05/16 11:30, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to get the Taskbar Panel to autohide, but when I click on
> > the options
> > button in the panel, the left, right and center options are
> > permanently highlighted but
> > seem to function in terms of moving the indicator that reflects which
> > option is active.
> > Also the 'Always Visible', 'Auto Hide', 'Windows can Cover' and
> > 'Windows go Below'
> > options are also permanently highlighted but selecting the 2nd or 3rd
> > option does
> > nothing. It appears these options are highlighted because the colour
> > scheme I am using,
> > which is forget-me-not thinks they are push buttons.
> >
> > Does anyone know why these don't work anymore in Fedora 23? I am using
> > Breeze for the Windows Style and Windows Decorations themes.
> > I forgot to mention this is in Plasma.
> > When I said it doesn't work anymore, what I meant was Autohide worked in
> > Fedora versions 18 to 22 but not in Fedora 23.
> >
> > It seems to be broken for me as well.  I didn't notice it, since I
> > don't use it.
> >
> > You may want to post to the KDE list as there are more folks hanging
> > out their with KDE
> > experience.  I could not find a bugzilla in either Redhat's BZ or on
> > KDE.org.  But I tend
> > not to phrase my queries well.  :-)
>
> It's probably this bug report :-)
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105
>
> One of those problem bugs as its works fine here on F23 and now since
> upgrading on F24 as well. Using nouveau here.

This bug report is the issue. Looking at the report it seems to be 
happening across a wide range of distributions and video drivers, and 
even the same nvidia driver works for some people and not others. It 
seems to me that it is probably an issue with hardware acceleration and 
the level of hardware acceleration available on the video card.
I am having trouble reading the version numbers in the repositories to 
identify what version of plasma I have installed and even what packages 
constitute plasma itself. I think I have plasma 5.6.4 installed but I'm 
not sure. I'll need to check the nvidia driver version as well.

regards,
Steve
> Colin

[Colin J Thomson]

> On 23/05/2016 20:46, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 22/05/16 07:57, Colin J Thomson wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105
>
> One of those problem bugs as its works fine here on F23 and now since
> upgrading on F24 as well. Using nouveau here.
> This bug report is the issue. Looking at the report it seems to be
> happening across a wide range of distributions and video drivers, and
> even the same nvidia driver works for some people and not others. It
> seems to me that it is probably an issue with hardware acceleration
> and the level of hardware acceleration available on the video card.

Yes I think you could be right there. So many variables in this bug, its
a tough one.
> I am having trouble reading the version numbers in the repositories to
> identify what version of plasma I have installed and even what
> packages constitute plasma itself. I think I have plasma 5.6.4
> installed but I'm not sure.

If you fire up Kinfocenter you can see which Versions of Plasma, QT and 
more
you are running.

Colin

[Stephen Morris]

On 24/05/16 06:09, Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > On 23/05/2016 20:46, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > On 22/05/16 07:57, Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105
> >
> > One of those problem bugs as its works fine here on F23 and now since
> > upgrading on F24 as well. Using nouveau here.
> > This bug report is the issue. Looking at the report it seems to be
> > happening across a wide range of distributions and video drivers, and
> > even the same nvidia driver works for some people and not others. It
> > seems to me that it is probably an issue with hardware acceleration
> > and the level of hardware acceleration available on the video card.
>
> Yes I think you could be right there. So many variables in this bug, its
> a tough one.
> > I am having trouble reading the version numbers in the repositories to
> > identify what version of plasma I have installed and even what
> > packages constitute plasma itself. I think I have plasma 5.6.4
> > installed but I'm not sure.
>
> If you fire up Kinfocenter you can see which Versions of Plasma, QT 
> and more
> you are running.

Thanks Colin, I'll have to install that program and try it out. I don't 
appear to have it as when I enter Kinfocenter in a shell it tells me the 
command doesn't exist.

regards,
Steve
> Colin

[Stephen Morris]

On 21/05/16 12:23, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/21/16 08:27, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > On 19/05/16 11:30, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am trying to get the Taskbar Panel to autohide, but when I click on the options
> > > button in the panel, the left, right and center options are permanently highlighted but
> > > seem to function in terms of moving the indicator that reflects which option is active.
> > > Also the 'Always Visible', 'Auto Hide', 'Windows can Cover' and 'Windows go Below'
> > > options are also permanently highlighted but selecting the 2nd or 3rd option does
> > > nothing. It appears these options are highlighted because the colour scheme I am using,
> > > which is forget-me-not thinks they are push buttons.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why these don't work anymore in Fedora 23? I am using
> > > Breeze for the Windows Style and Windows Decorations themes.
> >
> > I forgot to mention this is in Plasma.
> > When I said it doesn't work anymore, what I meant was Autohide worked in
> > Fedora versions 18 to 22 but not in Fedora 23.
>
> It seems to be broken for me as well.  I didn't notice it, since I don't use it.
>
> You may want to post to the KDE list as there are more folks hanging out their with KDE
> experience.  I could not find a bugzilla in either Redhat's BZ or on KDE.org.  But I tend
> not to phrase my queries well.  :-)

Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to see 
if they have any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.

regards,
Steve
>

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
> Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to see if they have
> any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.

That would be http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

And I think Colin nailed it with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105

[Stephen Morris]

On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to see if they have
> > any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.
>
> That would be http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>
> And I think Colin nailed it with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105

Thanks Ed. Colin did hit the nail on the head with the bug report, but 
my reply to him went directly to him rather than the mail list which I 
have now corrected.
Given that from the bug report the issue seems to be an upstream plasma 
issue, is the fedora kde mail list is that the right list to be querying 
a fix Eta?
I thought I had the proprietary nvidia drivers from the rpmfusion 
repositories(both the kmod and akmod packages), but when I use yumex to 
do a search for nvidia, the only package I can find that appears to be 
installed is the X11 nouveau driver from the rpmfusion non-free testing 
repository(unless the packages are named differently in the F23 
repositories and don't have nvidia in their descriptions). In F22 I was 
using the kmod and akmod packages so it looks like the upgrade from F22 
to F23 via Fedup has removed the 'proprietary' nvidia drivers.

regards,
Steve

[Stephen Morris]

On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to see if they have
> > any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.
>
> That would be http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>
> And I think Colin nailed it with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105

Thanks for the responses guys, having upgraded to F24 I can confirm this 
issue has been resolved in F24.

regards,
Steve

[Stephen Morris]

On 07/07/16 08:24, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to 
> > > see if they have
> > > any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.
> >
> > That would be 
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >
> > And I think Colin nailed it with 
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105
>
> Thanks for the responses guys, having upgraded to F24 I can confirm 
> this issue has been resolved in F24.

Having had the issue fixed by an upgrade to F24, after putting on all 
the regular updates up to the current point in time I have found that 
the issue has resurfaced and autohide no longer works, nor is autohide 
selectable from the panel options again. What I don't know is which 
specific updates have reintroduced the issue as I have only just noticed it.
How do I identify whether this is an upstream issue or whether Fedora 
changes have caused the issue (I think changes to KDE Themes can cause 
this as well).

regards,
Steve
> regards,
> Steve
> -- 
> users mailing list
> [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe or change subscription options:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org

[Rick Stevens]

On 10/05/2016 02:37 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 07/07/16 08:24, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > > Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to
> > > > see if they have
> > > > any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.
> > >
> > > That would be
> > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > >
> > > And I think Colin nailed it with
> > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105
> >
> > Thanks for the responses guys, having upgraded to F24 I can confirm
> > this issue has been resolved in F24.
>
> Having had the issue fixed by an upgrade to F24, after putting on all
> the regular updates up to the current point in time I have found that
> the issue has resurfaced and autohide no longer works, nor is autohide
> selectable from the panel options again. What I don't know is which
> specific updates have reintroduced the issue as I have only just noticed
> it.
> How do I identify whether this is an upstream issue or whether Fedora
> changes have caused the issue (I think changes to KDE Themes can cause
> this as well).

From what I can see, this is (has) been an issue in kde-workspace in
versions prior to 5.6.5. Verify the versions you have installed via

dnf list installed kde-workspace*

If it's later than 5.6.5, then you should probably bugzilla it to
Fedora. Make sure you put all the pertinent data (KDE component
versions, themes versions, etc.) in your report. The Fedora gang will
see if it's something Fedora-specific. If not and it's from upstream, I
think they'd push it up the food chain to KDE.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital    [e-mail] -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 226437340           Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-        Brain:  The organ with which we think that we think.        -
----------------------------------------------------------------------

[Stephen Morris]

On 06/10/16 09:07, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 10/05/2016 02:37 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > On 07/07/16 08:24, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > > On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to
> > > > > see if they have
> > > > > any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.
> > > >
> > > > That would be
> > > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > > >
> > > > And I think Colin nailed it with
> > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105
> > >
> > > Thanks for the responses guys, having upgraded to F24 I can confirm
> > > this issue has been resolved in F24.
> >
> > Having had the issue fixed by an upgrade to F24, after putting on all
> > the regular updates up to the current point in time I have found that
> > the issue has resurfaced and autohide no longer works, nor is autohide
> > selectable from the panel options again. What I don't know is which
> > specific updates have reintroduced the issue as I have only just noticed
> > it.
> > How do I identify whether this is an upstream issue or whether Fedora
> > changes have caused the issue (I think changes to KDE Themes can cause
> > this as well).
>
> From what I can see, this is (has) been an issue in kde-workspace in
> versions prior to 5.6.5. Verify the versions you have installed via
>
> dnf list installed kde-workspace*
>
> If it's later than 5.6.5, then you should probably bugzilla it to
> Fedora. Make sure you put all the pertinent data (KDE component
> versions, themes versions, etc.) in your report. The Fedora gang will
> see if it's something Fedora-specific. If not and it's from upstream, I
> think they'd push it up the food chain to KDE.

Thanks for the response Rick. I issued the command and the only response 
I got was for kde-workspace-common.noarch which listed the version as 
1:4.11.22-16.fc24. This looks to be less than the version you listed, is 
that correct?

regards,
Steve
> Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital    [e-mail] -
> AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 226437340           Yahoo: origrps2 -
>                                                                -
>    Brain:  The organ with which we think that we think.        -
>
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[Rick Stevens]

On 10/07/2016 12:57 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 06/10/16 09:07, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > On 10/05/2016 02:37 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > On 07/07/16 08:24, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > > On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > > > On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to
> > > > > > see if they have
> > > > > > any indications on when it is likely to be fixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > That would be
> > > > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > > > >
> > > > > And I think Colin nailed it with
> > > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the responses guys, having upgraded to F24 I can confirm
> > > > this issue has been resolved in F24.
> > >
> > > Having had the issue fixed by an upgrade to F24, after putting on all
> > > the regular updates up to the current point in time I have found that
> > > the issue has resurfaced and autohide no longer works, nor is autohide
> > > selectable from the panel options again. What I don't know is which
> > > specific updates have reintroduced the issue as I have only just noticed
> > > it.
> > > How do I identify whether this is an upstream issue or whether Fedora
> > > changes have caused the issue (I think changes to KDE Themes can cause
> > > this as well).
> >
> > From what I can see, this is (has) been an issue in kde-workspace in
> > versions prior to 5.6.5. Verify the versions you have installed via
> > dnf list installed kde-workspace*
> >
> > If it's later than 5.6.5, then you should probably bugzilla it to
> > Fedora. Make sure you put all the pertinent data (KDE component
> > versions, themes versions, etc.) in your report. The Fedora gang will
> > see if it's something Fedora-specific. If not and it's from upstream, I
> > think they'd push it up the food chain to KDE.
>
> Thanks for the response Rick. I issued the command and the only response
> I got was for kde-workspace-common.noarch which listed the version as
> 1:4.11.22-16.fc24. This looks to be less than the version you listed, is
> that correct?

Sorry for not responding before. I'm in the middle of relocating our
offices and have been swamped.

I'm not a KDE user generally. I did some googling and that's what I
found. I see the same data on my system regarding the version of
kde-workspace-common RPM. I don't know if the 4.11.22-16 refers to the
version of the workspace software or just the version of the RPM itself
(weirder things have happened). The system that I have it installed on
(my laptop) is currently buried in our datacenter doing some heavy
lifting so I can't check on it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital    [e-mail] -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 226437340           Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-          When all else fails, try reading the instructions.        -
----------------------------------------------------------------------