F35 - audio a bit mixed up

[John Horne]

Hello,

I carried out an online upgrade of my laptop a couple of days ago from F34 to
F35. No problems with that, and all seemed to be okay. However, today I noticed
that audio was not working, or partially working for some things (Zoom audio in
particular seemed to fail completely).

I noticed the previous list messages about swapping pulseaudio for pipewire,
but this seemed to make no difference. I have tried changing settings, but no
joy. So could someone who has audio working okay under F35 run some command-
line checks for me please:

1) run: rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
(so I can see that I have the right packages installed)

2) (as the logged in user) run: ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
(so I can see that I have the right processes running)

3) run: systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
(so I can see that the correct services are running)



Thanks,

John.

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[Frank McCormick]

On 2021-11-08 13:33, John Horne wrote:
>  Hello,
>
>  I carried out an online upgrade of my laptop a couple of days ago from F34 to
>  F35. No problems with that, and all seemed to be okay. However, today I noticed
>  that audio was not working, or partially working for some things (Zoom audio in
>  particular seemed to fail completely).
>
>  I noticed the previous list messages about swapping pulseaudio for pipewire,
>  but this seemed to make no difference. I have tried changing settings, but no
>  joy. So could someone who has audio working okay under F35 run some command-
>  line checks for me please:
>
>  1) run: rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  (so I can see that I have the right packages installed)
>
>  2) (as the logged in user) run: ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  (so I can see that I have the right processes running)
>
>  3) run: systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  (so I can see that the correct services are running)
>
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  John. 
[frank@fedora ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
libpipeline-1.5.3-3.fc35.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-15.0-2.fc35.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-15.0-2.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-libs-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-alsa-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-utils-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64

[frank@fedora ~]$
[frank@fedora ~]$ ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
frank        961  0.0  0.2 264836 10904 ?        S<sl 15:42 0:00 
/usr/bin/pipewire
frank       1160  0.0  0.1 236948  6828 ?        S<sl 15:42 0:00 
/usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
frank       1599  0.0  0.0 221792  2308 pts/0    S+   15:44   0:00 grep 
--color=auto -iE pulse|pipe

[frank@fedora ~]$
[frank@fedora ~]$ systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE 
'pulse|pipe'
   pipewire-pulse.service                                     loaded 
active running PipeWire PulseAudio
   pipewire.service                                           loaded 
active running PipeWire Multimedia Service
[frank@fedora ~]$

[John Horne]

On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 15:45 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
>  On 2021-11-08 13:33, John Horne wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > I carried out an online upgrade of my laptop a couple of days ago from F34
>  > to F35. No problems with that, and all seemed to be okay. However, today I
>  > noticed that audio was not working, or partially working for some things
>  > (Zoom audio in particular seemed to fail completely).
>  >
>  > I noticed the previous list messages about swapping pulseaudio for
>  > pipewire, but this seemed to make no difference. I have tried changing
>  > settings, but no joy. So could someone who has audio working okay under F35
>  > run some command-line checks for me please:
>  >
>  > 1) run: rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  > (so I can see that I have the right packages installed)
>  >
>  > 2) (as the logged in user) run: ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  > (so I can see that I have the right processes running)
>  >
>  > 3) run: systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  > (so I can see that the correct services are running)
>  >
>  >
>
>  [frank@fedora ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  libpipeline-1.5.3-3.fc35.x86_64
>  pulseaudio-libs-15.0-2.fc35.x86_64
>  pulseaudio-libs-glib2-15.0-2.fc35.x86_64
>  pipewire-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
>  pipewire-libs-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
>  pipewire-alsa-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
>  pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
>  pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
>  pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
>  pipewire-utils-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64
>
>  [frank@fedora ~]$
>  [frank@fedora ~]$ ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe'
>  frank        961  0.0  0.2 264836 10904 ?        S<sl 15:42 0:00
>  /usr/bin/pipewire
>  frank       1160  0.0  0.1 236948  6828 ?        S<sl 15:42 0:00
>  /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
>  frank       1599  0.0  0.0 221792  2308 pts/0    S+   15:44   0:00 grep
>  --color=auto -iE pulse|pipe
>
>  [frank@fedora ~]$
>  [frank@fedora ~]$ systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE
>  'pulse|pipe'
>     pipewire-pulse.service                                     loaded
>  active running PipeWire PulseAudio
>     pipewire.service                                           loaded
>  active running PipeWire Multimedia Service
>  [frank@fedora ~]$
>  _______________________________________________
>
>  
Thanks for that. Your output is the same as mine, except that I had the 'kde-
settings-pulseaudio', 'pipewire0.2-libs' and 'pulseaudio-utils'
packages
installed as well. I have now removed them, but that made no difference.

I'll check further in logs to see if there are any errors/warnings, otherwise I
may see if I can revert back to just pulseaudio.



John.

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John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services
University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK
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[stan]

On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 21:28:15 +0000
John Horne <john.horne(a)plymouth.ac.uk&gt; wrote:
  
>  Thanks for that. Your output is the same as mine, except that I had
>  the 'kde- settings-pulseaudio', 'pipewire0.2-libs' and
>  'pulseaudio-utils' packages installed as well. I have now removed
>  them, but that made no difference.
>  
>  I'll check further in logs to see if there are any errors/warnings,
>  otherwise I may see if I can revert back to just pulseaudio. 
A message relevant to this from a few days ago, might help.

From: Paul Smith <phhs80(a)gmail.com&gt;
To: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Subject: Re: F35 still running pulseaudio after upgrade
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 16:33:32 +0000
Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 3:48 PM Ian Pilcher <arequipeno(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Are there instructions anywhere for switching to pipewire?   
See the following, Ian:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WirePlumber

and run

dnf swap wireplumber pipewire-media-session

Paul

[John Horne]

On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 18:33 +0000, John Horne wrote:
>  Hello,
>
>  I carried out an online upgrade of my laptop a couple of days ago from F34 to
>  F35. No problems with that, and all seemed to be okay. However, today I
>  noticed that audio was not working, or partially working for some things
>  (Zoom audio in particular seemed to fail completely).
>
>  I noticed the previous list messages about swapping pulseaudio for pipewire,
>  but this seemed to make no difference. I have tried changing settings, but no
>  joy. So could someone who has audio working okay under F35 run some command-
>  line checks for me please:
>
>  
Hello,

Well I finally got audio working fine under pipewire. I'm just not sure what
the problem was! I tried several things, changed settings, checked logs and
started trawling through bug reports. It seems a few people gave up with
pipewire, and reverted back to pulseaudio.

So, feeling the same way, I decided to go back to pulseaudio. Bad move! My
laptop then said it had no audio devices! So, I removed the 'pulseaudio'
package, and reinstalled the pipewire packages that had been removed. I also
reinstalled 'pipewire-alsa'. Surprise! Audio now worked :-) With the laptop I
also have a docking station, external monitor with builtin speakers, an
external webcam with mic, USB headphones with mic and some Hyper-X headphones
(excellent by the way) with mic which can be plugged in via USB or the audio
jack. I tested using the system settings, Amarok and (for work) MS Teams and
Zoom. Using all sorts of combinations it all worked fine.

Thanks for your help,

John.

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John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services
University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK
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