Motherboards

[Gary Hodder]

Hi all,

I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed.
Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even
though it has 3 years warranty.
Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine.
Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on.
Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired
than been used.
It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus
will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux.
So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there?

Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.

Thanks
Gary.

[Tommy Pham]

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Gordon Messmer <yinyang(a)eburg.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 07/11/2012 12:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote:
> >
> > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
> > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>
>
>  The software quality on current-generation Gigabyte and MSI motherboards is
>  much better than ASUS motherboard software.  I wouldn't hesitate to
>  recommend Gigabyte, having tested several boards in the last few months.
>  -- 
I have been using its sibling, GA-990FAX-UD5, for about 3-4 months now
and it runs great. :)

[Gordon Messmer]

On 07/11/2012 12:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote:
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well
> with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. 
The software quality on current-generation Gigabyte and MSI motherboards 
is much better than ASUS motherboard software.  I wouldn't hesitate to 
recommend Gigabyte, having tested several boards in the last few months.

[Kernel Guardian]

I have owned tyan dual PIII (still working under freebsd); msi dual amd
(working under CentOS), GA-EP35-UD3L (F17), GA-P55-US3L. The Only problems
what i had were related to drivers for rtl 811x.x chipsets under centos.
Asus laptops have problems with standby mode. But with little hacking can
work well. Sometime laptop fan can be noisy in current kernels.
On Jul 12, 2012 9:06 PM, "Suvayu Ali" <fatkasuvayu+linux(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

>  On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:35:40PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote:
>  >
>  > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>  >
>
>  I have owned a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P since Jan 2009; it has never broken
>  down, neither has it ever given me driver troubles. I have been using it
>  as a workstation/light server since I bought it. It even survived a
>  trans-atlantic move! But beware, they don't officially support Linux,
>  although they do have OS independent utilites for backing up and
>  flashing BIOSes.
>
>  HTH
>
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>
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[Suvayu Ali]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:35:40PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote:
>  
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>   
I have owned a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P since Jan 2009; it has never broken
down, neither has it ever given me driver troubles. I have been using it
as a workstation/light server since I bought it. It even survived a
trans-atlantic move! But beware, they don't officially support Linux,
although they do have OS independent utilites for backing up and
flashing BIOSes.

HTH

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

[Terry Polzin]

On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 13:49 -0400, fred smith wrote:
>  On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>  > 
>  > I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006.
>  > It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14.
>  > I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right.
>  > It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient.
>  
>  in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same)
>  RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your
>  CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old
>  P4 may not.
>  
>  I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to
>  your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things)
>  this output:
>  
>  flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36
> clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow
> constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm
> sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
> [8]
>  
>  which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell
>  whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same.
>  
>  Fred
>  
>  -- 
>  ---- Fred Smith -- fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -----------------------------
>    "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
>    Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He 
>   will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
>        it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
>  ------------------------------- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ------------------------------ 
I'm running F17 PAE kernel on a Dell Inspirion 1000 (2ghz Celleron) I've
chosen XFCE as my desktop.  May be your desktop choice is too fat.

[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>  
>  I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006.
>  It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14.
>  I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right.
>  It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. 
in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same)
RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your
CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old
P4 may not.

I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to
your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things)
this output:

flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36
clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow
constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm
sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
[8]

which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell
whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same.

Fred

-- 
---- Fred Smith -- fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -----------------------------
  "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
  Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He 
 will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
      it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
------------------------------- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ------------------------------

[Michael Hennebry]

I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006.
It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14.
I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right.
It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient.

-- 
Michael   hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
"On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class,
whom I teach not to run with scissors,
that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword."  --  Lily

[Mark LaPierre]

On 07/11/2012 03:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>  I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed.
>  Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even
>  though it has 3 years warranty.
>  Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine.
>  Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on.
>  Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired
>  than been used.
>  It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus
>  will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux.
>  So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there?
>
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>
>  Thanks
>  Gary.
>
>  
I have an MSI K9MM-V MoBo in my CentOS 6.2 box.  While I had F12/F13 on 
it I had issues with the HD on the IDE port disappearing at random 
intervals.  To get the drive back I had to reboot the machine.

I don't know if this behavior is still the same with CentOS 6.2 because 
I eventually removed the IDE drive.

The built in sound card has line and microphone inputs.  I've never been 
able to get the line input to work.  The microphone input did work for a 
short while.  I was never able to make it work again after the first few 
days.

As for Gigabyte Mobos and Gigabyte's Hybrid EFI in connection to Linux 
you might want to read this web site:

http://www.rodsbooks.com/gb-hybrid-efi/


-- 
     _
    °v°
   /(_)\
    ^ ^  Mark LaPierre
Registerd Linux user No #267004
www.counter.li.org
****

[Michael Cronenworth]

Gary Hodder wrote:
>  will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux.
>  So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? 
The only companies that officially support Linux are server hardware
manufacturers. IE: Dell, HP, SuperMicro, etc.

If you want such a motherboard you can either by a SuperMicro board or
buy a whole server system from Dell or HP.

IMHO just buy any motherboard. You've had bad luck. It happens.

FYI: I've always used ASUS products on all my Linux machines. Even a
ASUS laptop. They are all still operating as of today.

P.S. Don't say you are running Linux to the customer support people.
They immediately close your case. We all know operating systems don't
make working hardware into not working hardware so a little white lie is
just fine.

[Peter G.]

Gary Hodder wrote:

>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
I have had 2 different Asus motherboards over the years, and I always had intermittent 
and difficult to assess problems. Sometimes, I would boot and my hard drives would not 
be there. A few tries and reboots later, and all was fine for a few days. Sometimes, 
there would be no keyboard. This only happened with USB keyboards, never ps/2 
keyboards. Sometimes, there would be no CD/DVD drive. The system would boot, but when 
I opened k3b, there would be no drive present. After rebooting, it was back for a few 
days. Etc.

Then, I switched to Intel motherboards. Not a single problem. I always get Intel 
motherboards with Intel graphics. These are sensational. Presently, I have the INTEL 
DQ45CB with an INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6320 1.866GHz Processor. I have had it for about 2 
years, and I doubt I will need to upgrade for at least another couple. It has been a 
great buy and my next one will be Intel, too.

[Bob Goodwin]

On 11/07/12 08:34, Roger types:
>  On 11/07/12 20:56, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> > On 11.07.2012, Gary Hodder wrote:
> >
> >> I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
> > I have had good experiences with Gigabyte mainboards the last 5 years,
> > both with regards to Linux compatibility and quality.
> >
>  Me too.
>  Roger
>  
    This computer is a tiny Gigabyte board I put in a 2-unit rack mount
    enclosure that fits under my old Brother laser printer. An
    E350N-USB3, an AMD processor. I installed F-17 and it has run
    without a hitch for a month or more now. My past experience with
    ASUS was not good ... I finally tossed the board.

    Bob

    -- 
    http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD

    box9

[Christopher Svanefalk]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Ian Malone <ibmalone(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 11 July 2012 08:35, Gary Hodder <vk2kcf(a)vk2kcf.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>  > I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed.
>  > Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even
>  > though it has 3 years warranty.
>  > Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine.
>  > Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on.
>  > Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired
>  > than been used.
>  > It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus
>  > will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux.
>  > So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there?
>  >
>  > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>  >
>
>  Asus M2NPV-MX, running for > 4 years (5?) now.
>
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Gigabyte X79-UD7 here, works great.

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[Ian Malone]

On 11 July 2012 08:35, Gary Hodder <vk2kcf(a)vk2kcf.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>  I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed.
>  Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even
>  though it has 3 years warranty.
>  Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine.
>  Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on.
>  Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired
>  than been used.
>  It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus
>  will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux.
>  So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there?
>
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>  
Asus M2NPV-MX, running for > 4 years (5?) now.

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk

[Roger]

On 11/07/12 20:56, Heinz Diehl wrote:
>  On 11.07.2012, Gary Hodder wrote:
>
> > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>  I have had good experiences with Gigabyte mainboards the last 5 years,
>  both with regards to Linux compatibility and quality.
>  
Me too.
Roger

[Heinz Diehl]

On 11.07.2012, Gary Hodder wrote: 

>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
I have had good experiences with Gigabyte mainboards the last 5 years,
both with regards to Linux compatibility and quality.

[Mateusz Marzantowicz]

On 11.07.2012 09:35, Gary Hodder wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. 
I don't quite understand your problem. I don't want to judge here "which
motherboard is better" because it really depends on your needs. If I
asked you what hard drive is better for me to use with Linux, what would
you tell me? Today, the only piece of hardware that Linux users must be
careful when buying is video card and sometimes sound card. Other
hardware is well supported.


Mateusz Marzantowicz

[EGO-II.1]

On 07/11/2012 03:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>  I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed.
>  Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even
>  though it has 3 years warranty.
>  Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine.
>  Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on.
>  Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired
>  than been used.
>  It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus
>  will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux.
>  So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there?
>
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>
>  Thanks
>  Gary. 
Not sure which motherboard my laptop has, (Gateway T-Series T6321 
model!) but it's already been through installations of Linux MInt, 
PearOS, Ubuntu, and CEntOS, until I finally decided upon Fedora, and I 
haven't had any problems since, and this is a used laptop whom the owner 
was just going to throw away! Now it's my number one machine! (out of 
three!) So maybe there's some trught in what you say, a friend of mine 
HAD a newer Asus laptop he got from WalMart, and after the first 7 
months it went belly up for (strangely enough!) a power issue!


EGO II
>

[Artifex Maximus]

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Michael Hennebry
<hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu&gt; wrote:
>  I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March
> 2006.
>  It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14.
>  I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right.
>  It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. 
Might that is not the case here but I have the same motherboard and
F16 (and other distro with newer kernel) runs only with kernel
parameter processor.nocst=1 otherwise I got crash at initial ramdisk
loading. I do not really know why but that extra parameter helps. F17
runs fine here without that parameter.

Bye,
a

[Michael Hennebry]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, fred smith wrote:

>  did I really type "PAT"?? man, I gotta go back and read
> these things
>  before I send 'em out. I mean "PAE"! :( 
pae is also in my flags list.
My F14 kernel is a PAE kernel.

-- 
Michael   hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
"On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class,
whom I teach not to run with scissors,
that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword."  --  Lily

[Rick Stevens]

On 07/12/2012 12:05 PM, Suvayu Ali issued this missive::
>  On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:35:40PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote:
> >
> > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
> > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. 
We're a big Linux shop here and we used Dells, SuperMicro, HP and IBM.
Personally, I've used a lot of boards with differing results, mostly
good. Currently I have a Shuttle FN78S (Athlon X2) and an MSI
785GTM-E45 (MS-7549) (AMD Phenom X4). Both work quite well, although
the front USB ports on the Shuttle drop out.
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[Mark Haney]

On 07/11/2012 03:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>  I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed.
>  Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even
>  though it has 3 years warranty. 
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. 
I'm a bit late to this party.  I've been enjoying the birth of my first 
grandchild so I've been offline for a few days.

I like the Gigagbyte boards, but I have to say I"ve picked up a couple 
of incredible ASRock boards. (I'm not sure if those are ASUS boards or 
not.  But I have a A770DE+ with a Phenom II x6, 8GB RAM and it runs as 
cool as I've ever seen.  The heat sink isn't any bigger than most and I 
have that one sitting underneath a desk that doesn't get a lot of air 
flow.


-- 

Mark Haney
Software Developer/Consultant
AB Emblem
markh(a)abemblem.com
Linux marius.homelinux 3.4.4-4.fc16.x86_64 GNU/Linux

[Dotan Cohen]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Gary Hodder <vk2kcf(a)vk2kcf.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box?
>  I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed.
>  Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even
>  though it has 3 years warranty.
>  Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine.
>  Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on.
>  Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired
>  than been used.
>  It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus
>  will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux.
>  So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there?
>
>  Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with
>  Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box.
>
>  Thanks
>  Gary.
>  
Take a good look at the LAN driver for that board. If it is the new 1
GiB onboard Realtek then you might have trouble with it in Linux. I
just went through hell with an Asus board with the new Realtek onboard
LAN and I was going to swap it out for a Gigabyte board (at my own
expense) before realising that the Gigabytes also have the same
component.

Even Windows won't get online with that LAN before installing the
driver disk. So that is a good way to check if you know someone with
the board running Windows.

Whatever you do, make sure that the board you buy has a PCI slot. The
stupid Asus board in question didn't even have a PCI slot for me to
install a replacement LAN card into! I'll never make that mistake
again!

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

[Michael Hennebry]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Terry Polzin wrote:

>  On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 13:49 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> > > 
> > > I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006.
> > > It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14.
> > > I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right.
> > > It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient.
> > 
> > in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same)
> > RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your
> > CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old
> > P4 may not.
> > 
> > I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to
> > your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things)
> > this output:
> > 
> > flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
> pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext
> 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy
> abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
> [8]
> > 
> > which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell
> > whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same. 
pat is in my flags list.

>  I'm running F17 PAE kernel on a Dell Inspirion 1000 (2ghz
> Celleron) I've
>  chosen XFCE as my desktop.  May be your desktop choice is too fat. 
F16 doesn't get that far.
On F17, I did choose XFCE.

-- 
Michael   hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
"On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class,
whom I teach not to run with scissors,
that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword."  --  Lily

[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 07:47:20PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>  On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Terry Polzin wrote:
>  
>  >On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 13:49 -0400, fred smith wrote:
>  >>On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>  >>> 
>  >>> I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006.
>  >>> It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14.
>  >>> I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right.
>  >>> It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient.
>  >>
>  >>in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same)
>  >>RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your
>  >>CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old
>  >>P4 may not.
>  >>
>  >>I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to
>  >>your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things)
>  >>this output:
>  >>
>  >>flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
>  >>mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext 
>  >>fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni 
>  >>cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a 
>  >>misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps 
>  >>hwpstate [8]
>  >>
>  >>which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell
>  >>whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same.
>  
>  pat is in my flags list. 
did I really type "PAT"?? man, I gotta go back and read these things
before I send 'em out. I mean "PAE"! :(


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  Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He 
 will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
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