Book for Fedora & one for bash

[Kostas Sfakiotakis]

Can someone suggest a good book for Fedora ( well at least with systemd 
) and one for bash a relatively recent one but please not just for bash 
scripting .

Also another question if i may ask , is there a way to monitor the boot 
process on Fedora and see what get's written to the disk and if possible 
where

( granted pressing the F1 button will pop up a message saying for 
example  Starting the httpd daemon but a bit more detail on that if 
possible ) ??

[Dave Stevens]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 21:52:18 +0200
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf(a)cha.forthnet.gr&gt; wrote:

>  Can someone suggest a good book for Fedora ( well at least with
>  systemd ) and one for bash a relatively recent one but please not
>  just for bash scripting . 
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.pdf is the most recent
bash manual, October 2020.

d
>  
>  Also another question if i may ask , is there a way to monitor the
>  boot process on Fedora and see what get's written to the disk and if
>  possible where
>  
>  ( granted pressing the F1 button will pop up a message saying for 
>  example  Starting the httpd daemon but a bit more detail on that if 
>  possible ) ??
>  
>  
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[Kostas Sfakiotakis]

Στις 18/12/20 10:15 μ.μ., ο/η Dave Stevens έγραψε:
>  On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 21:52:18 +0200
>  Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf(a)cha.forthnet.gr&gt; wrote:
>
> > Can someone suggest a good book for Fedora ( well at least with
> > systemd ) and one for bash a relatively recent one but please not
> > just for bash scripting .
>  https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.pdf is the most recent
>  bash manual, October 2020.
>
>  d 
Ok , thanks . Just finished downloading it . :) .

[George N. White III]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 15:55, Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf(a)cha.forthnet.gr&gt;
wrote:

>  Can someone suggest a good book for Fedora ( well at least with systemd
>  ) and one for bash a relatively recent one but please not just for bash
>  scripting .
>  
It is usually a mistake to focus on a single distro and shell environment.
 If you
plan to be around for a while you will encounter many changes, so a broader
perspective is useful.   I started on unix when the documentation was a
binder
of reprints of papers by people at AT&T Bell Labs <
https://dsf.berkeley.edu/cs262/unix.pdf>
and man pages.  Those early papers are still worth reading for perspective
on the underlying reasoning behind the shell and utilities.

In many fields, work is increasingly done by distributed groups working in
different enterprises, each with different choices of Linux distro, so
linux users often need to understand differences between distributions.
 As an
example, I developed and maintained a (very specialized) scientific
application
that started out with Fortran on a CDC Cyber, moved to Dec VAX,
Ardent/Stardent
UNIX, SGI IRIX, and then various linux distros, macOS, and (thanks to
COVID-19,
Cygwin) (all this was with a single employer).

The application uses a number of shell scripts that started out using ksh
on IRIX,
then bash for macOS and linux.  I recently updated the scripts to work with
dash.
Either I'm slowing down or the pace of change has been increasing.

I've owned many editions of UNIX and Linux System Administration, see
<https://www.admin.com/samples/Index.pdf>;.

>  Also another question if i may ask , is there a way to monitor the boot
>  process on Fedora and see what get's written to the disk and if possible
>  where
>
>  ( granted pressing the F1 button will pop up a message saying for
>  example  Starting the httpd daemon but a bit more detail on that if
>  possible ) ??
>  
Most daemons have debugging options that provide more detail.
UNIX and Linux System Administration has a good introduction,
then you may need to read the detailed documentation for the
version you are using.

-- 
George N. White III

[Robert G. (Doc) Savage]

On Sat, 2020-12-19 at 08:36 -0400, George N. White III wrote:
>  On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 15:55, Kostas Sfakiotakis
>  <kostassf(a)cha.forthnet.gr&gt; wrote:
>  > 
>  > Can someone suggest a good book for Fedora ( well at least with
>  > systemd 
>  > ) and one for bash a relatively recent one but please not just for
>  > bash 
>  > scripting .
>  > 
>  
>  
>  It is usually a mistake to focus on a single distro and shell
>  environment.   If you
>  plan to be around for a while you will encounter many changes, so a
>  broader
>  perspective is useful.   I started on unix when the documentation was
>  a binder
>  of reprints of papers by people at AT&T Bell Labs
>  <https://dsf.berkeley.edu/cs262/unix.pdf>
>  and man pages.  Those early papers are still worth reading for
>  perspective 
>  on the underlying reasoning behind the shell and utilities.   
>  
>  In many fields, work is increasingly done by distributed groups
>  working in 
>  different enterprises, each with different choices of Linux distro,
>  so
>  linux users often need to understand differences between
>  distributions.   As an
>  example, I developed and maintained a (very specialized) scientific
>  application 
>  that started out with Fortran on a CDC Cyber, moved to Dec VAX,
>  Ardent/Stardent 
>  UNIX, SGI IRIX, and then various linux distros, macOS, and (thanks to
>  COVID-19, 
>  Cygwin) (all this was with a single employer).
>  
>  The application uses a number of shell scripts that started out using
>  ksh on IRIX, 
>  then bash for macOS and linux.  I recently updated the scripts to
>  work with dash.   
>  Either I'm slowing down or the pace of change has been increasing.
>  
>  I've owned many editions of UNIX and Linux System Administration,
>  see 
>  <https://www.admin.com/samples/Index.pdf>.   
>  > 
>  > Also another question if i may ask , is there a way to monitor the
>  > boot 
>  > process on Fedora and see what get's written to the disk and if
>  > possible 
>  > where
>  > 
>  > ( granted pressing the F1 button will pop up a message saying for 
>  > example  Starting the httpd daemon but a bit more detail on that if
>  > possible ) ??
>  > 
>  
>  
>  Most daemons have debugging options that provide more detail.  
>  UNIX and Linux System Administration has a good introduction, 
>  then you may need to read the detailed documentation for the 
>  version you are using. 
If you haven't already done so, carefully review the Fedora 33
documentation
at https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f33/, especially the
Installation and System Administration guides. As I have just
discovered with the TigerVNC application, this documentation may not be
universally perfect. Stuff changes all the time. Buta, together with
the bash PDF previously cited, these two guides should answer 99.99% of
your Fedora questions.

--Doc Savage
    Fairview Heights, IL