fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

[Genes MailLists]

 I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition.

 When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a
choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I
want to install fresh.

 Is this a bug or is there an option I need to put in somewhere to
upgrade this system?

  thanks for any pointers.


 gene/

[Genes MailLists]

On 05/30/2010 07:34 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>  
>   I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition.
>  
>   When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a
>  choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I
>  want to install fresh.
>  
>   Is this a bug or is there an option I need to put in somewhere to
>  upgrade this system?
>  
>    thanks for any pointers.
>  
>  
>   gene/
>   
  I guess its only possible fpr anaconda to upgrade if there is a
separate boot partition ...

[Frank Murphy]

On 31/05/10 00:34, Genes MailLists wrote:
>  
>   I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition.
>  
>   When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a
>  choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I
>  want to install fresh.
>  
>   Is this a bug or is there an option I need to put in somewhere to
>  upgrade this system?
>  
>    thanks for any pointers.
>  
>  
>   gene/
>   
yum update?
with the dvd as a repo?

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[Aaron Konstam]

On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 08:59 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: 
>  On 05/30/2010 07:34 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>  > 
>  >  I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition.
>  > 
>  >  When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a
>  > choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I
>  > want to install fresh.
>  > 
>  >  Is this a bug or is there an option I need to put in somewhere to
>  > upgrade this system?
>  > 
>  >   thanks for any pointers.
>  > 
>  > 
>  >  gene/
>  > 
>  
>    I guess its only possible fpr anaconda to upgrade if there is a
>  separate boot partition ...
>  
>   
I am not sure why that should be. The screen to Install or upgrade
should appear before you are asked to choose storage devices. There is
an error inn the Quick Start Guide which has the screen after you decide
on the storage reconfiguration but that makes no sense. If you upgrade
you would keep the same partitions.
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[Genes MailLists]

On 05/31/2010 04:21 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

>  
>  I am not sure why that should be. The screen to Install or upgrade
>  should appear before you are asked to choose storage devices. There is
>  an error inn the Quick Start Guide which has the screen after you decide
>  on the storage reconfiguration but that makes no sense. If you upgrade
>  you would keep the same partitions.
>  --
>  =======================================================================
>  No man would listen to you talk if he didn't know it was his turn next.
>  -- E.W. Howe
>  =======================================================================
>  Aaron Konstam telephone: [phone] e-mail: akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net
>   
 For sure there is no screen asking for upgrade versus install ..

[Kevin Cummings]

On 05/30/2010 07:34 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>  
>   I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition.
>  
>   When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a
>  choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I
>  want to install fresh.
>  
>   Is this a bug or is there an option I need to put in somewhere to
>  upgrade this system? 
If I read all of the release info for F11, 12, and 13, you *must* move
from F10 to F11, you cannot go directly to F12 or F13.  I tried with
pre-upgrade, and it failed masking the real error (which was that
upgrading to F13 was not possible from F10) and instead returning an
error saying that the previous installation could not be found.  And
that was *after* downloading a boat-load of F13 packages for installation.

That leaves nothing to do with that install except either abort or
install F13.

Instead, I fought pre-upgrade, hand editted the grub entry to find my
old installation correctly, and eventually was able to use it to upgrade
to F11.  The problem was that I thought I had fooled it into upgrading
to F13 anyways.  I had just finished downloading *all* of the necessary
F13 packages, but when the upgrade continued, it instead found a mix of
F11, F12, F13, and F14 packages to install for me (OK, the F14 stuff
came from rpmfusion and atrpms rawhide repos), but the fedora-release
file that got installed for me was from F11.

I spent a lot of time cleaning up the F11 upgrade and I'm still not back
to where everything I had working in F10 is working in F11, even after
removing all the F12, F13, and F14 packages.  MySQL isn't able to
upgrade my F10 databases, and that leaves MythTV broken (my best bet is
to wipe the old databases and install from scratch again).

Pre-upgrade now fails for F12 and F13 upgrades claiming something about
a missing datatype "primary".  But, I could still try upgrading to rawhide.

>    thanks for any pointers. 
Look closely at your debug messages in the consoles during your
attempted upgrade.  I'm betting you might find the same error I did that
says you can't upgrade to F13 from F10....

I reported this to the fedora-testing list as F13 went BETA.
No one there seemed interested because F10 is no longer supported.

>   gene/ 
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[Genes MailLists]

>  If I read all of the release info for F11, 12, and 13, you *must*
> move
>  from F10 to F11, you cannot go directly to F12 or F13.  I tried with
>  pre-upgrade, and it failed masking the real error (which was that
>  upgrading to F13 was not possible from F10) and instead returning an
>  error saying that the previous installation could not be found.  And
>  that was *after* downloading a boat-load of F13 packages for installation.
>  
>  That leaves nothing to do with that install except either abort or
>  install F13.
>  
 Ah thanks Kevin thats very helpful - i generally prefer to do clean
installs - but I have this one firewall and I am tired and hoped for a
quick and easy path since it has no gui and most other stuff is dead
simple .. i will full install (its better anyway) .. and fixup all the
firewall stuff (bind, squid, iptables rules etc).

thanks!

gene