What to do about a GUI application not appearing in Gnome Software?

[Matti Pulkkinen]

Hello!

I noticed that RStudio doesn't show up in Gnome Software's search on
F33 Workstation. My understanding is that graphical applications should
be installable through Gnome Software, but I'm not sure whether filing
a bug would be the right thing to do here, ot whether there's something
else I should do instead.

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Matti Pulkkinen

[Richard Hughes]

Does it install an appdata or metainfo file?

Richard

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 21:22 Matti Pulkkinen, <mkjpul(a)utu.fi&gt; wrote:

>  Hello!
>
>  I noticed that RStudio doesn't show up in Gnome Software's search on
>  F33 Workstation. My understanding is that graphical applications should
>  be installable through Gnome Software, but I'm not sure whether filing
>  a bug would be the right thing to do here, ot whether there's something
>  else I should do instead.
>
>  --
>  Terveisin / Regards,
>  Matti Pulkkinen
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[Matti Pulkkinen]

ma, 2021-02-15 kello 21:25 +0000, Richard Hughes kirjoitti:
>  Does it install an appdata or metainfo file?
>  
>  Richard 
If I understood the docs page [1] correctly, then the  question is
whether the package installs a .metainfo.xml or .appdata.xml file. I'm
not completely sure how to find that out, but I don't see one on the
list of files on this 3rd party page [2].

[1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/AppData/
[2]
https://fedora.pkgs.org/32/fedora-updates-x86_64/rstudio-desktop-1.3.1093...

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Matti Pulkkinen

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 3:18 PM Matti Pulkkinen <mkjpul(a)utu.fi&gt; wrote:
>  If I understood the docs page [1] correctly, then the  question is
>  whether the package installs a .metainfo.xml or .appdata.xml file. I'm
>  not completely sure how to find that out, but I don't see one on the
>  list of files on this 3rd party page [2]. 
$ dnf repoquery -l rstudio-desktop
Last metadata expiration check: 1:52:02 ago on Mon 15 Feb 2021 12:38:32 PM MST.
/usr/bin/rstudio
/usr/lib/.build-id
/usr/lib/.build-id/04
/usr/lib/.build-id/04/174084b95276202543af29e04c208b444d2c52
/usr/lib/.build-id/5e
/usr/lib/.build-id/5e/ecab61333d76d766fbb510b9625db53c243c07
/usr/libexec/rstudio/bin/diagnostics
/usr/libexec/rstudio/bin/rstudio
/usr/libexec/rstudio/bin/rstudio-backtrace.sh
/usr/libexec/rstudio/rstudio.png
/usr/share/applications/rstudio.desktop
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/rstudio.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/mimetypes/application-x-r-data.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/mimetypes/application-x-r-project.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/rstudio.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/mimetypes/application-x-r-data.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/mimetypes/application-x-r-project.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps/rstudio.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/mimetypes/application-x-r-data.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/mimetypes/application-x-r-project.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/rstudio.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/mimetypes/application-x-r-data.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/mimetypes/application-x-r-project.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/rstudio.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/application-x-r-data.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/application-x-r-project.png
/usr/share/mime/packages/rstudio.xml
/usr/share/pixmaps/rstudio.png

So no, there is no appdata or metainfo file in the package, which is
why it does not appear in Gnome Software.  File a bug against rstudio
if you want the maintainers to do something about that.
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[Clifford Snow]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:45 PM Jerry James <loganjerry(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  So no, there is no appdata or metainfo file in the package, which is
>  why it does not appear in Gnome Software.  File a bug against rstudio
>  if you want the maintainers to do something about that.
>
>  I agree with Jerry - file a request with RStudio. According to the RStudio 
website
they haven't released an updated version since they released
rstudio-1.4.1103-x86_64.rpm for Fedora 28.

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[Ed Greshko]

On 16/02/2021 05:22, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
>  I noticed that RStudio doesn't show up in Gnome Software's
> search on
>  F33 Workstation. My understanding is that graphical applications should
>  be installable through Gnome Software, but I'm not sure whether filing
>  a bug would be the right thing to do here, ot whether there's something
>  else I should do instead. 
I don't generally use Gnome/Workstation.

However, I do note that the RStudio software doesn't show up in "Software". 
A search in that
application shows nothing.  As you've said.

There is another package management GUI called "gnome-packagekit-installer" and
it does show up
in that GUI when you search for it.

So, yes, I'd file a bugzilla against "Gnome Software".  And, then either use
the alternate GUI or
use dnf.  FWIW, I don't use the installer GUI for KDE either.  I only use dnf from the
command line.

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EXTERNAL: Re: What to do about a GUI application not appearing in Gnome Software?

[Wells, Roger K.]

On 2/15/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>  On 16/02/2021 05:22, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> > I noticed that RStudio doesn't show up in Gnome Software's search on
> > F33 Workstation. My understanding is that graphical applications should
> > be installable through Gnome Software, but I'm not sure whether filing
> > a bug would be the right thing to do here, ot whether there's something
> > else I should do instead.
>
>  I don't generally use Gnome/Workstation.
>
>  However, I do note that the RStudio software doesn't show up in
>  "Software".  A search in that
>  application shows nothing.  As you've said.
>
>  There is another package management GUI called
>  "gnome-packagekit-installer" and it does show up
>  in that GUI when you search for it.
>
>  So, yes, I'd file a bugzilla against "Gnome Software".  And, then
>  either use the alternate GUI or
>  use dnf.  FWIW, I don't use the installer GUI for KDE either.  I only
>  use dnf from the command line. 
same here, and dnf install rstudio appears to work (fwiw)


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[Joe Zeff]

On 2/15/21 2:22 PM, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
>  Hello!
>  
>  I noticed that RStudio doesn't show up in Gnome Software's search on
>  F33 Workstation. My understanding is that graphical applications should
>  be installable through Gnome Software, but I'm not sure whether filing
>  a bug would be the right thing to do here, ot whether there's something
>  else I should do instead.
>   
Use dnf.

[Matti Pulkkinen]

ma, 2021-02-15 kello 15:11 -0700, Joe Zeff kirjoitti:
>  
>  
>  Use dnf. 
Apologies, I was unclear before. The issue is the fact that this
application does not appear in Gnome Software even though, if my
understanding is correct, it should. Me installing the application with
dnf would, unfortunately, not fix this particular issue.

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Terveisin / Regards,
Matti Pulkkinen

[Joe Zeff]

On 2/15/21 3:23 PM, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
>  ma, 2021-02-15 kello 15:11 -0700, Joe Zeff kirjoitti:
> >
> >
> > Use dnf.
>  
>  Apologies, I was unclear before. The issue is the fact that this
>  application does not appear in Gnome Software even though, if my
>  understanding is correct, it should. Me installing the application with
>  dnf would, unfortunately, not fix this particular issue.
>   
Understood.  However, if you just use dnf, you don't have to worry about 
having a GUI front end for it messing up.  KISS.

[Richard Hughes]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 22:33, Joe Zeff <joe(a)zeff.us&gt; wrote:
>  Understood.  However, if you just use dnf, you don't have to
> worry about
>  having a GUI front end for it messing up.  KISS. 
And that is the reason I shouldn't even be on this mailing list.

Richard

[Matti Pulkkinen]

ti, 2021-02-16 kello 08:31 +0000, Richard Hughes kirjoitti:
>  On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 22:33, Joe Zeff <joe(a)zeff.us&gt; wrote:
>  > Understood.  However, if you just use dnf, you don't have to worry
>  > about
>  > having a GUI front end for it messing up.  KISS.
>  
>  And that is the reason I shouldn't even be on this mailing list.
>  
>  Richard 
I, for one, appreciate your work, for whatever that's worth.

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Terveisin / Regards,
Matti Pulkkinen