GNOME questions on fc20

[Alex]

Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.

How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
it be so difficult to do such a simple thing? I googled a bit, and saw
a reference to editing dateMenu.js, but the suggestions didn't work. I
can't believe I'd have to edit a text file to adjust the clock?!

I get the whole thing with not being able to (easily) minimize
applications. I know I can also switch between them with alt-tab. I
also know I can select them from "Activities", but that's an extra two
steps. Is there any way to "dock" apps like we used to be able to, so
I can select them with the mouse to choose between them?

Thanks,
Alex

[SternData]

On 12/31/2013 12:27 PM, Alex wrote:
>  Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
>  
>  How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
>  it be so difficult to do such a simple thing? I googled a bit, and saw
>  a reference to editing dateMenu.js, but the suggestions didn't work. I
>  can't believe I'd have to edit a text file to adjust the clock?!
>  
>  I get the whole thing with not being able to (easily) minimize
>  applications. I know I can also switch between them with alt-tab. I
>  also know I can select them from "Activities", but that's an extra two
>  steps. Is there any way to "dock" apps like we used to be able to, so
>  I can select them with the mouse to choose between them?
>  
>  Thanks,
>  Alex
>   
Use gnome-tweak-tool. ON the "top bar" tab, select "show date" The
"windows" tab lets you minimize windows.  Look at the various gnome
shell extensions.  Go here https://extensions.gnome.org to get
extensions that will let you add a dock and do other things to make the
desktop friendlier. I use the "dash to dock" extension, as well as "top
icons"

-- 
-- Steve

[Alex]

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Steven Stern
<subscribed-lists(a)sterndata.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 12/31/2013 12:27 PM, Alex wrote:
> > Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
> >
> > How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
> > it be so difficult to do such a simple thing? I googled a bit, and saw
> > a reference to editing dateMenu.js, but the suggestions didn't work. I
> > can't believe I'd have to edit a text file to adjust the clock?!
> >
> > I get the whole thing with not being able to (easily) minimize
> > applications. I know I can also switch between them with alt-tab. I
> > also know I can select them from "Activities", but that's an extra two
> > steps. Is there any way to "dock" apps like we used to be able to, so
> > I can select them with the mouse to choose between them?
>
>  Use gnome-tweak-tool. ON the "top bar" tab, select "show date" The
>  "windows" tab lets you minimize windows.  Look at the various gnome 
"show date" only shows month and day, not year. There doesn't appear
to be a "date" extension that does this.

I don't have a "windows" tab. Is it supposed to be alongside the
"activites" tab?

>  shell extensions.  Go here https://extensions.gnome.org to get
>  extensions that will let you add a dock and do other things to make the
>  desktop friendlier. I use the "dash to dock" extension, as well as "top
>  icons" 
The "taskbar" extension looks good. I'm surprised it isn't part of the
core install.

Thanks,
Alex

[SternData]

On 01/01/2014 03:00 PM, Alex wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Steven Stern
>  <subscribed-lists(a)sterndata.com&gt; wrote:
> > On 12/31/2013 12:27 PM, Alex wrote:
> >> Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
> >>
> >> How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
> >> it be so difficult to do such a simple thing? I googled a bit, and saw
> >> a reference to editing dateMenu.js, but the suggestions didn't work. I
> >> can't believe I'd have to edit a text file to adjust the clock?!
> >>
> >> I get the whole thing with not being able to (easily) minimize
> >> applications. I know I can also switch between them with alt-tab. I
> >> also know I can select them from "Activities", but that's an extra
> two
> >> steps. Is there any way to "dock" apps like we used to be able to, so
> >> I can select them with the mouse to choose between them?
> >
> > Use gnome-tweak-tool. ON the "top bar" tab, select "show date"
> The
> > "windows" tab lets you minimize windows.  Look at the various gnome
>  
>  "show date" only shows month and day, not year. There doesn't appear
>  to be a "date" extension that does this. 
It's 2014. That should hold you for a "year". :-)


>  
>  I don't have a "windows" tab. Is it supposed to be alongside the
>  "activites" tab?
>  
> > shell extensions.  Go here https://extensions.gnome.org to get
> > extensions that will let you add a dock and do other things to make the
> > desktop friendlier. I use the "dash to dock" extension, as well as
> "top
> > icons"
>  
>  The "taskbar" extension looks good. I'm surprised it isn't part of the
>  core install.
>  
>  Thanks,
>  Alex
>   

-- 
-- Steve

[Alex]

Hi,

> > "show date" only shows month and day, not year. There
> doesn't appear
> > to be a "date" extension that does this.
>
>  It's 2014. That should hold you for a "year". :-) 
Oops, lol. I meant it only displayed day of week and time. After using
the gsettings suggestion, it now display the full date properly.

Thanks,
Alex

[Rahul Sundaram]

HI


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alex <mysqlstudent(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
>
>  How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
>  it be so difficult to do such a simple
> thing?<https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users> 

It isn't that difficult.

# yum install gnome-tweak-tool

Search for "Tweak tool" in the overview and go to the "Top Bar"
section.

The command line equivalent is

# gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface clock-show-date true

Alt +F2,  press "r" and enter to restart the shell

Rahul

[Alex]

Hi,

> > How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why
> would
> > it be so difficult to do such a simple thing?
>
>  It isn't that difficult.
>
>  # yum install gnome-tweak-tool
>
>  Search for "Tweak tool" in the overview and go to the "Top Bar"
> section.
>
>  The command line equivalent is
>
>  # gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface clock-show-date true
>
>  Alt +F2,  press "r" and enter to restart the shell 
Awesome, thanks. I see there are quite a few schemas that can be
configured using gsettings. Do you have any others that you frequently
adjust that might also be helpful?

Thanks,
Alex

[Rahul Sundaram]

HI


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alex <mysqlstudent(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I get the whole thing with not being able to (easily) minimize
>  applications. I know I can also switch between them with alt-tab. I
>  also know I can select them from "Activities", but that's an extra two
>  steps. Is there any way to "dock" apps like we used to be able to, so
>  I can select them with the mouse to choose between
> them?<http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct> 

I missed answering this in my first mail.   Minimize/maximize is available
on right click on any window title FYI and has shortcuts preconfigured
(Super/Windows key and h, Super and down button respectively).  GNOME Tweak
Tool can change the default for non CSD applications as well and clicking
on the dock will change the focus back to the app if it is running or
launch a new instance if an application is not running

Rahul