Plone and static content

[Mike McGrath]

So Fedora is starting to mature a bit more in size and I wanted to get 
this ball rolling.

Since fedora.redhat.com is now gone the wiki is our official content 
site.  There's a couple problems with that, performance is an issue and 
most content on the wiki is developer oriented.  One thing we're working 
on right now for the F7 release is a simple plone instance for the 
fedoraproject.org landing page.  Note, the wiki isn't going away, but 
when users go to fedoraproject.org they'll see more end-user content.

My question for you guys is, once FAS2 is done and we get into having 
more 'official content'.  What do you guys want to do with a plone 
site?  The doc's guys will have their own site.  Is anyone interested in 
this project?  The idea is that the 'official' fedora site will be very 
small.  Having only minimal information for end users and potential 
contributors.  It would then link to the larger sites like the wiki.

Thoughts?

    -Mike

[Thomas Chung]

On 4/24/07, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  So Fedora is starting to mature a bit more in size and I wanted to
> get
>  this ball rolling.
>
>  Since fedora.redhat.com is now gone the wiki is our official content
>  site.  There's a couple problems with that, performance is an issue and
>  most content on the wiki is developer oriented.  One thing we're working
>  on right now for the F7 release is a simple plone instance for the
>  fedoraproject.org landing page.  Note, the wiki isn't going away, but
>  when users go to fedoraproject.org they'll see more end-user content.
>
>  My question for you guys is, once FAS2 is done and we get into having
>  more 'official content'.  What do you guys want to do with a plone
>  site?  The doc's guys will have their own site.  Is anyone interested in
>  this project?  The idea is that the 'official' fedora site will be very
>  small.  Having only minimal information for end users and potential
>  contributors.  It would then link to the larger sites like the wiki.
>
>  Thoughts?
>
>      -Mike 
Hi Mike,
Can we see the site in development yet?
I've been thinking we could use the plone site for
news/communication/marketing site for fedora end-users. Of course a
plenty of distribution/project information should be available which
lead to joining various Fedora Projects including developments and
testings.
Regards,
-- 
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung

[Thomas Chung]

On 4/24/07, Thomas Chung <tchung(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On 4/24/07, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > So Fedora is starting to mature a bit more in size and I wanted to get
>  > this ball rolling.
>  >
>  > Since fedora.redhat.com is now gone the wiki is our official content
>  > site.  There's a couple problems with that, performance is an issue and
>  > most content on the wiki is developer oriented.  One thing we're working
>  > on right now for the F7 release is a simple plone instance for the
>  > fedoraproject.org landing page.  Note, the wiki isn't going away, but
>  > when users go to fedoraproject.org they'll see more end-user content.
>  >
>  > My question for you guys is, once FAS2 is done and we get into having
>  > more 'official content'.  What do you guys want to do with a plone
>  > site?  The doc's guys will have their own site.  Is anyone interested in
>  > this project?  The idea is that the 'official' fedora site will be very
>  > small.  Having only minimal information for end users and potential
>  > contributors.  It would then link to the larger sites like the wiki.
>  >
>  > Thoughts?
>  >
>  >     -Mike
>
>  Hi Mike,
>  Can we see the site in development yet?
>  I've been thinking we could use the plone site for
>  news/communication/marketing site for fedora end-users. Of course a
>  plenty of distribution/project information should be available which
>  lead to joining various Fedora Projects including developments and
>  testings. 
BTW, I really like simply approach such as http://www.gnome.org/
-- 
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung

[Mike McGrath]

Thomas Chung wrote:
>  On 4/24/07, Thomas Chung <tchung(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> > On 4/24/07, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> > > So Fedora is starting to mature a bit more in size and I wanted to get
> > > this ball rolling.
> > >
> > > Since fedora.redhat.com is now gone the wiki is our official content
> > > site.  There's a couple problems with that, performance is an issue 
> > and
> > > most content on the wiki is developer oriented.  One thing we're 
> > working
> > > on right now for the F7 release is a simple plone instance for the
> > > fedoraproject.org landing page.  Note, the wiki isn't going away, but
> > > when users go to fedoraproject.org they'll see more end-user content.
> > >
> > > My question for you guys is, once FAS2 is done and we get into having
> > > more 'official content'.  What do you guys want to do with a plone
> > > site?  The doc's guys will have their own site.  Is anyone 
> > interested in
> > > this project?  The idea is that the 'official' fedora site will be 
> > very
> > > small.  Having only minimal information for end users and potential
> > > contributors.  It would then link to the larger sites like the wiki.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > >     -Mike
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > Can we see the site in development yet?
> > I've been thinking we could use the plone site for
> > news/communication/marketing site for fedora end-users. Of course a
> > plenty of distribution/project information should be available which
> > lead to joining various Fedora Projects including developments and
> > testings.
>
>  BTW, I really like simply approach such as http://www.gnome.org/ 
Yeah, this will be extremely simple.  Karsten pointed out:

wget -qO- http://fedoraproject.org/ | grep href | wc -l

There's 61 links on the current main page?!?!!  holy moly :)

    -Mike

[Pramod Venugopal]

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I like the simplicity of the Gnome website too.

Thomas Chung wrote:
>  On 4/24/07, Thomas Chung <tchung(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> > On 4/24/07, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> >> So Fedora is starting to mature a bit more in size and I wanted
> >>
> > to get
> >> this ball rolling.
> >>
> >> Since fedora.redhat.com is now gone the wiki is our official
> >> content site.  There's a couple problems with that, performance
> >> is an
> > issue and
> >> most content on the wiki is developer oriented.  One thing
> >> we're
> > working
> >> on right now for the F7 release is a simple plone instance for
> >> the fedoraproject.org landing page.  Note, the wiki isn't going
> >> away,
> > but
> >> when users go to fedoraproject.org they'll see more end-user
> > content.
> >>
> >> My question for you guys is, once FAS2 is done and we get into
> > having
> >> more 'official content'.  What do you guys want to do with a
> >> plone site?  The doc's guys will have their own site.  Is
> >> anyone
> > interested in
> >> this project?  The idea is that the 'official' fedora site will
> >>
> > be very
> >> small.  Having only minimal information for end users and
> >> potential contributors.  It would then link to the larger sites
> >> like the wiki.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> -Mike
> >
> > Hi Mike, Can we see the site in development yet? I've been
> > thinking we could use the plone site for
> > news/communication/marketing site for fedora end-users. Of course
> > a plenty of distribution/project information should be available
> > which lead to joining various Fedora Projects including
> > developments and testings.
>
>  BTW, I really like simply approach such as http://www.gnome.org/ 
- --
Pramod Venugopal
pramod(a)dvnull.org
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[Mike McGrath]

Thomas Chung wrote:
>  On 4/24/07, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> > So Fedora is starting to mature a bit more in size and I wanted to get
> > this ball rolling.
> >
> > Since fedora.redhat.com is now gone the wiki is our official content
> > site.  There's a couple problems with that, performance is an issue and
> > most content on the wiki is developer oriented.  One thing we're working
> > on right now for the F7 release is a simple plone instance for the
> > fedoraproject.org landing page.  Note, the wiki isn't going away, but
> > when users go to fedoraproject.org they'll see more end-user content.
> >
> > My question for you guys is, once FAS2 is done and we get into having
> > more 'official content'.  What do you guys want to do with a plone
> > site?  The doc's guys will have their own site.  Is anyone interested in
> > this project?  The idea is that the 'official' fedora site will be very
> > small.  Having only minimal information for end users and potential
> > contributors.  It would then link to the larger sites like the wiki.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >     -Mike
>
>  Hi Mike,
>  Can we see the site in development yet? 
Not yet, I'm still in the process of
learning plone myself, we've got 
jonathan on our team which is why I'm not as worried about it as I used 
to be.  But I'm armed with my book and some free time while we're 
waiting on installing the builders for the merge so this seems like a 
good time to get a sample site out.  It'll have very few authors and 
only 1 or 2 pages.  So if we have to destroy it later, no big deal.
>  I've been thinking we could use the plone site for
>  news/communication/marketing site for fedora end-users. Of course a
>  plenty of distribution/project information should be available which
>  lead to joining various Fedora Projects including developments and
>  testings. 
Absolutely, really the biggest blocker is getting a proper account 
system behind it which will happen shortly after F7 when fas2 launches.  
It's ldap based.  But as far as I'm concerned plone instances will come 
about just like anything else.  Fill out an RFR: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/ once we have a proper 
plone setup getting new instances should be trivial.

    -Mike