Re: [PATCH] Update get-help to reflect new default IRC client

[Todd Zullinger]

Hi Hiemanshu,

Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
>  Please see my reply to the bug, #fedora now needs registration to
>  enter, it would be nice to have a link to the freenode faq with the
>  nick setup part. 
Yep, I noticed that¹ and mentioned it in #fedora-websites as the
reason I held off on pushing this change.

Though to be fair, the registration has existed for a long time and
wasn't mentioned previously.  Adding it seems like a fine idea, but
the bug in question was specifically about the switch from Pidgin to
Empathy. And Eric's patch don't cause any regressions in the help
text.

It seems reasonable to treat the lack of information on registration
as a separate bug/missing feature.  I'm sure patches are welcome there
too.  Any takers?

¹ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=610977#c3

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[PATCH] Update get-help to reflect new default IRC client

[Sijis Aviles]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Todd Zullinger <tmz(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi Hiemanshu,
>
>  Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
> > Please see my reply to the bug, #fedora now needs registration to
> > enter, it would be nice to have a link to the freenode faq with the
> > nick setup part.
>
>  Yep, I noticed that¹ and mentioned it in #fedora-websites as the
>  reason I held off on pushing this change.
>
>  Though to be fair, the registration has existed for a long time and
>  wasn't mentioned previously.  Adding it seems like a fine idea, but
>  the bug in question was specifically about the switch from Pidgin to
>  Empathy. And Eric's patch don't cause any regressions in the help
>  text.
>
>  It seems reasonable to treat the lack of information on registration
>  as a separate bug/missing feature.  I'm sure patches are welcome there
>  too.  Any takers?
>
>  ¹ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=610977#c3
>
>  --
>  Todd        OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Remember that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and
>  ability.
>  
Hiemanshu does make a good point, here's what i propose:

---
diff --git a/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
b/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
index 18ab794..2fc84be 100644
--- a/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
+++ b/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
        <h3>${Markup(_('Real Time Support (IRC)'))}</h3>
        <p>${Markup(_('If a problem requires real time support, with
somebody to explain each step and deal with any problems as they
arise, Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is the ideal solution. Fedora has a
        <p>${Markup(_('To access this support launch Fedoras default
instant messaging client, Empathy, and choose Accounts from the Edit
menu. Add a new account, and select IRC as the protocol. Next, s
+       <p>${Markup(_('Note: You will have to &lt;a
href="%s"&gt;register with Freenode&lt;/a&gt; in order to access
the
#fedora channel.' %
'http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration'))}</p>

        <h3>${Markup(_('E-mail Support'))}</h3>
        <p>${Markup(_('Some users prefer to take advantage of mailing
lists to get help. The advantage of this method is that by subscribing
to a mailing list it is possible to discover common problems
---

Sijis

[PATCH] Update get-help to reflect new default IRC client

[Sijis Aviles]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Todd Zullinger <tmz(a)pobox.com&gt;
> wrote:
> > Hi Hiemanshu,
> >
> > Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
> >> Please see my reply to the bug, #fedora now needs registration to
> >> enter, it would be nice to have a link to the freenode faq with the
> >> nick setup part.
> >
> > Yep, I noticed that¹ and mentioned it in #fedora-websites as the
> > reason I held off on pushing this change.
> >
> > Though to be fair, the registration has existed for a long time and
> > wasn't mentioned previously.  Adding it seems like a fine idea, but
> > the bug in question was specifically about the switch from Pidgin to
> > Empathy. And Eric's patch don't cause any regressions in the help
> > text.
> >
> > It seems reasonable to treat the lack of information on registration
> > as a separate bug/missing feature.  I'm sure patches are welcome there
> > too.  Any takers?
> >
> > ¹ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=610977#c3
> >
> > --
> > Todd        OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Remember that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and
> > ability.
> >
>
>  Hiemanshu does make a good point, here's what i propose:
>
>  ---
>  diff --git a/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
>  b/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
>  index 18ab794..2fc84be 100644
>  --- a/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
>  +++ b/fedoraproject.org/data/content/get-help.html
>  @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
>         <h3>${Markup(_('Real Time Support (IRC)'))}</h3>
>         <p>${Markup(_('If a problem requires real time support, with
>  somebody to explain each step and deal with any problems as they
>  arise, Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is the ideal solution. Fedora has a
>         <p>${Markup(_('To access this support launch Fedoras default
>  instant messaging client, Empathy, and choose Accounts from the Edit
>  menu. Add a new account, and select IRC as the protocol. Next, s
>  +       <p>${Markup(_('Note: You will have to &lt;a
>  href="%s"&gt;register with Freenode&lt;/a&gt; in order to access
> the
>  #fedora channel.' %
>  'http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration'))}</p>
>
>         <h3>${Markup(_('E-mail Support'))}</h3>
>         <p>${Markup(_('Some users prefer to take advantage of mailing
>  lists to get help. The advantage of this method is that by subscribing
>  to a mailing list it is possible to discover common problems
>  ---
>
>  Sijis
>  
Anyone have concerns/comments with this patch?

Sijis