Request to add Fedora-it.org to Fedora Italian Communities

[Antonio Trande]

Hello,

my name is Antonio and i am a Fedora italian ambassador (nickname
sagitter<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sagitter>).
With others ambassadors, follow up a Fedora Forum in italian language named
fedora-it.org/ <http://www.fedora-it.org/> where i provide technical
support, report news about Fedora and FOSS world.
We would like to add this community to the Fedora Community EMEA.
How can we do that ?

Regards
-- 
*Antonio Trande
"Fedora Ambassador"

**mail*: mailto:[e-mail] <sagitter(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
*Homepage*: http://www.fedora-os.org
*Sip Address* : sip:sagitter AT ekiga.net
*Jabber <http://jabber.org/>* :sagitter AT jabber.org
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[Kévin Raymond]

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Antonio Trande <anto.trande(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hello,
>
>  my name is Antonio and i am a Fedora italian ambassador (nickname sagitter).
>  With others ambassadors, follow up a Fedora Forum in italian language named
>  fedora-it.org/ where i provide technical support, report news about Fedora
>  and FOSS world.
>  We would like to add this community to the Fedora Community EMEA.
>  How can we do that ?
>
>  Regards
>  --
>  Antonio Trande
>  "Fedora Ambassador" 
Hi,

We want this community website to be precise but light.
We won't add all communities websites (shop, forums, wiki, planet,
blogs, trackers…).

Is fedora-it.org complementary with the actual one, http://www.fedoraonline.it ?
And do you have signed the trademark agreement with Legals to own the
fedora-it.org domain name?

fedoracommunity.org should refer to the main local community portal.
That will help to grow your community, I've heard several ambassadors
working on this…

-- 
Kévin Raymond
(shaiton)
GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2

[Mario Santagiuliana]

Hi to all,
I am Mario Santagiuliana, you can know more about me on my wiki page:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Marionline

Sorry for my late to reply to Antonio email, in this weeks I have a lot of 
personal things to do.
And sorry for my possible bad English.

In data martedì 22 maggio 2012 17:54:55, Kévin Raymond ha scritto:
>  Is fedora-it.org complementary with the actual one,
>  http://www.fedoraonline.it ? And do you have signed the trademark
>  agreement with Legals to own the fedora-it.org domain name? 
Like Antonio said: the fedora-it.org website is born without following the 
fedora project request to don't open new domain with fedora name inside and 
without follow the trademark agreement or legals notice.

In Italy we have just a big fedora community website: FOL or 
www.fedoraonline.it or it.fedoracommunity.org.
FOL was born a lot of years ago and in the last months we (because I am 
part of the technical staff of fedoraonline.it community) also update all 
the portal. We are in contact with other fedora community, especial fedora-
fr.org that help us to choose the right software to use to update our 
website.

We are doing a big work to attract new users to Fedora and to Fedora 
Project contributions. And in our community and staff we have a lot of great 
person and fedora expert.
In our FOL active staff we are in three ambassadors (me, Gabriele Trombini 
[1], Gianluca Sforna [2]). In our forum we give to users a "banner" to 
explain them which role they have in Fedora Project or fedoraonline.it 
community (like designer or ambassador or fol redactor), so users can see 
what they are.

You must to know that Antonio was part of our staff months and months ago. 
He decide to leave us but I don't understand clearly why...and he start to 
write in another, new, Italian fedora community website without continue a 
collaboration with us.

The history is more complex. Synthetically I understand that fedora-it.org 
was (re-)born some months ago from old Italian fedora ambassadors team to 
become a portal for his groups and their activity and don't a "mirror" of 
fedoraonline.it, like it is now.

fedoraonline.it is open to users contributions, Antonio was part of us. I 
ask on Italian users mailing list (the first ML for Italian fedora 
ambassadors) and then on private Italian fedora ambassadors ML (when I 
become an ambassador) to don't open a new website, to don't have same 
portal and to help growing existing community without create confusion to 
end users.

I write to much, I think that Robert Mayer [3] could give you more info 
about history of the first and biggest Italian fedora community. He is the 
founder of our community.

I am extremely disappointed about this request, for various reasons, but 
the first is that Antonio didn't wrote to Italian ambassadors mailing list 
before doing his request.

Bye!

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mailga
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Giallu
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Robyduck
-- 
Mario Santagiuliana
www.marionline.it