F13 spin websites: home stretch

[Mel Chua]

This is what I believe to be the remaining tasks to get the 4 new spin 
pages to v.1.0 for the F13 release, in order of how close they are to 
shippable. Copying spin owners here as well.

The urgent thing here that we don't already have covered is the banners 
- so copying the design team also, with a plea to look at 
https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/132. We may have a newcomer 
who can take a shot at it, but they will need guidance if so (and we'll 
find out tomorrow whether they can help in time).

Freeze is Tuesday, so I believe that is the deadline we are shooting for 
(what time on Tuesday, in what timezone?)

--Mel

== Security ==

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/security/ (hurrah updated screenshot!)

* downloads need to be made available via 
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/security/#downloads
* we may want to point http://spins.fedoraproject.org/security/#support 
towards more security-specific locations (however, it's not bad if this 
section ships as-is)

== Moblin ==

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/moblin/

* needs banner, images (https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/132)
* new content in 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Moblin_Spin#Spin_description needs to be 
pushed to the main page
* new content in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Moblin_Spin#About needs 
to be pushed to "about" tab, with screenshots added
* downloads need to be made available via 
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/moblin/#downloads

== SoaS ==

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/

* needs banner, images (https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/132)
* downloads need to be made available via 
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads, with a link out to "how 
to put this on your thumbdrive" instructions

== Design ==

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/design/

* needs banner, images (https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/132)
* needs screenshot for front page
* needs About text written, pushed to "about" tab, preferably with 
screenshots
* downloads need to be made available via 
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/design/#downloads (also, fix typos)
* we may want to add text, or a link to a wiki page, about joining the 
Design team in the "Support" tab (however, it's not bad if this section 
ships as-is)

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Sonntag, den 02.05.2010, 01:23 -0400 schrieb Mel Chua:
>  This is what I believe to be the remaining tasks to get the 4 new
> spin 
>  pages to v.1.0 for the F13 release, in order of how close they are to 
>  shippable. Copying spin owners here as well. 
I have to admit that I'm a little confused now.  What exactly are the
spin owners required to do here?  In the past we got mail from the
design team and just had send our material to them.  This doesn't seem
to have happened.

The only reason why we already have a page for the security spin page is
that Jörg did it himself.  You told him to "make sure download links
point to the correct image", but I wonder how spin owners are supposed
to know the links if they have no access to the hosting and the torrent
tracker.

What Jörg did is clearly a job of the design and/or the websites team.
If we just add all spin maintainers to these groups in FAS and let them
do the job without coordination with the rest of the team, I'm afraid we
end up in chaos.  We need a clear defined workflow for the spin pages
and someone in charge of it.  Things have worked really well in the F12
cycle and we need to get back to the old procedure.

Regards,
Christoph

[Mel Chua]

On 05/02/2010 03:38 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  Am Sonntag, den 02.05.2010, 01:23 -0400 schrieb Mel Chua:
> > This is what I believe to be the remaining tasks to get the 4 new spin
> > pages to v.1.0 for the F13 release, in order of how close they are to
> > shippable. Copying spin owners here as well.
>
>  I have to admit that I'm a little confused now.  What exactly are the
>  spin owners required to do here?  In the past we got mail from the
>  design team and just had send our material to them.  This doesn't seem
>  to have happened. 
Nothing right now, really - I mostly included the spin owners for the 
specific pages we were working on so that you folks would be in the 
loop. Sorry for the confusion.

I do agree we need a clearer workflow/division-of-responsibilities for 
spin pages, though. There was more confusion this time than there 
probably needs to be. There are some notes in 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spin_webpage_creation_SOP that could be 
cleaned up and improved, and perhaps documentation of a workflow could 
go there as well.

--Mel

[Mel Chua]

Content is ready to ship. Assuming download links will work properly 
come release day, we only need banners and screenshots for SoaS and 
Design (and for the Moblin banner to actually show up on the page - if 
anyone knows how to make this happen, let me know; see the Moblin 
section below for details).

Banners are being completed tomorrow thanks to Melanie Kim, and I'll be 
taking the basic front-page screenshots tomorrow unless someone beats me 
to them (help extremely welcomed). More screenshots would be nice, and 
help figuring out how to make the right spins show on the front page for 
spins.fp.o would be quite welcome.

--Mel

== For all spins ==

* Make sure download links point to the right image location
* Make sure they show up on the main spins.fp.o page (I don't know how 
to do this - help?)

>  == Security ==
>
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/security/ 
Shippable!

>  == Moblin ==
>
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/moblin/ 
* We have banners now (thanks mkim!) and they've been pushed to 
fedora-web/spins.fedoraproject.org/static/images/spin/moblin-*.png - I'm 
not sure why they don't show up.
* New content has been pushed.
* Screenshots for "About" would be nice to have, but we could live 
without them.

Shippable - more screenshots for 
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/moblin/#about would be nice.

>  == SoaS ==
>
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ 
* links, content all fixed (pointed to creation kit install docs, 
openhatch page, SoaS wiki page)
* needs banner (mkim making tomorrow, see 
https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/132)
* needs main screenshot

Will be shippable as soon as the banner and screenshot is up. More 
screenshots, again, would be nice, but not mandatory.

>  == Design ==
>
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/design/ 
* links, content all fixed
* needs banner (mkim making tomorrow, see 
https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/132)
* needs main screenshot

Will be shippable as soon as the banner and screenshot is up. More 
screenshots, again, would be nice, but not mandatory.

F13 spin websites: done!

[Mel Chua]

All right - it's freeze day, and I *believe* we're good to ship. Fresh 
eyeballs welcome; I've been staring at these pages way too long.

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/moblin
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/security
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/design

I've also added these (and tweaked the content on) the talking points, 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points#Spins, which are 
now done and ready to ship to Ambassadors (Marketing team, take note!)

I've checked each page for content, banner, and at least a main 
screenshot on the front page. The final changes (screenshots for soas 
and design) are syncing now but should be up in an hour or so. The 
screenshot (actually an action shot) for design has slightly offset text 
when you click the image to enlarge it, but it's still legible (and I 
couldn't figure out how to fix it), so... all right.

I talked with Sijis in #fedora-websites tonight and he explained that 
he'll filter content automagically on release day so the correct spins 
(with their smaller banners) will show up on the main spins.fp.o page, 
and that download links are similarly automagically created then.

Thank you to Sijis for his patient help in all things related to the 
website build system, Joerg for making the Security spin site totally 
shine, Peter for Moblin spin content corrections, Sebastian for 
screenshots and template change-merging ninjahood, Mo for design advice 
and the Design spin action shot, Melanie (first time Fedora/Design 
contributor) for creating all the banners that we needed at the last 
moment, the Allegheny crew for being game and helping us discover our 
need for http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spin_webpage_creation_SOP (which, 
btw, could use some help now that we know the answer to "how do you make 
a spin page?" is "it takes too long"), Ian for copyediting and trademark 
reminders, and... well, if I've forgotten anyone, please holler. :)

--Mel

[Design-team] F13 spin websites: done!

[Máirín Duffy]

Hi Mel,

On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 04:32 -0400, Mel Chua wrote:
>  All right - it's freeze day, and I *believe* we're good to
> ship. Fresh 
>  eyeballs welcome; I've been staring at these pages way too long.
>  
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/moblin
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/security
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas
>  http://spins.fedoraproject.org/design 
I'm seeing an issue with the tabs and content spacing on these spins
pages - it's not on the other spins pages - I haven't dived into what
the cause might be yet since I don't have Firebug installed ATM but I'm
looking into it now.

If I find a fix can we make it?

~m

[Design-team] F13 spin websites: done!

[Máirín Duffy]

An update - 

On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 11:11 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>  I'm seeing an issue with the tabs and content spacing on these
> spins
>  pages - it's not on the other spins pages - I haven't dived into what
>  the cause might be yet since I don't have Firebug installed ATM but I'm
>  looking into it now.
>  
>  If I find a fix can we make it? 
Sijis found the issue! Apparently whitespace in the content files was
causing it. He is going through now and adjusting them.

~m