Deprecated pages on the wiki

[Thomas Canniot]

Dear all,

When we used MoinMoin wiki, 3 years ago,the French Translation Team was
strong enough to handle the translation of the wiki pages of the Fedora
websites. When we moved to MediaWiki, the pages were kept and ported...
and are still available today [1].

However, the French translation team cannot endorse this kind of effort
today. The pages are then left untouched and deprecated since some
years now. Their contents are obsolete and convey wrong information
about how to get involved into the Fedora Project and other general
information about it.

Other reasons makes me feel these pages should be deleted :
- a translation process is not acheived in MediaWiki the way is was
  acheived with MoinMoin
- the FR translation team is not able to handle such a task
- the page are referenced in google, and mislead our future
  contributors.

I am aware that I have a part of responsability in this problem today
and I deeply apologize for not having been able to maintain such a
task. I'm also aware that this failure will make someone loose time
deleting the pages... unless I'm given the right to delete pages for
some hours to achieve the task.

How should we process then ?

Best regards,

Thomas

[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=F...

[Paul W. Frields]

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 06:39:09PM +0100, Thomas Canniot wrote:
>  Dear all,
>  
>  When we used MoinMoin wiki, 3 years ago,the French Translation Team was
>  strong enough to handle the translation of the wiki pages of the Fedora
>  websites. When we moved to MediaWiki, the pages were kept and ported...
>  and are still available today [1].
>  
>  However, the French translation team cannot endorse this kind of effort
>  today. The pages are then left untouched and deprecated since some
>  years now. Their contents are obsolete and convey wrong information
>  about how to get involved into the Fedora Project and other general
>  information about it.
>  
>  Other reasons makes me feel these pages should be deleted :
>  - a translation process is not acheived in MediaWiki the way is was
>    acheived with MoinMoin
>  - the FR translation team is not able to handle such a task
>  - the page are referenced in google, and mislead our future
>    contributors.
>  
>  I am aware that I have a part of responsability in this problem today
>  and I deeply apologize for not having been able to maintain such a
>  task. I'm also aware that this failure will make someone loose time
>  deleting the pages... unless I'm given the right to delete pages for
>  some hours to achieve the task.
>  
>  How should we process then ? 
Hi Thomas,

You can move any such page into the Archive using the 'move' tab,
renaming it with the word "Archive:" in front of the page name.  So
for instance "My_page" would become "Archive:My_page".  You may also
add the text '{{old}}' to the top of each page that needs to be
deprecated.  This will place them in a category for eventual deletion.

If you're interested in helping with this type of deletion
maintenance, you can sign up on the wiki maintainers mailing list for
assistance:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki

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[Thomas Canniot]

Le Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:56:24 -0500,
"Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; a écrit :

>  On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 06:39:09PM +0100, Thomas Canniot wrote:
>  > Dear all,
>  > 
>  > When we used MoinMoin wiki, 3 years ago,the French Translation Team
>  > was strong enough to handle the translation of the wiki pages of
>  > the Fedora websites. When we moved to MediaWiki, the pages were
>  > kept and ported... and are still available today [1].
>  > 
>  > However, the French translation team cannot endorse this kind of
>  > effort today. The pages are then left untouched and deprecated
>  > since some years now. Their contents are obsolete and convey wrong
>  > information about how to get involved into the Fedora Project and
>  > other general information about it.
>  > 
>  > Other reasons makes me feel these pages should be deleted :
>  > - a translation process is not acheived in MediaWiki the way is was
>  >   acheived with MoinMoin
>  > - the FR translation team is not able to handle such a task
>  > - the page are referenced in google, and mislead our future
>  >   contributors.
>  > 
>  > I am aware that I have a part of responsability in this problem
>  > today and I deeply apologize for not having been able to maintain
>  > such a task. I'm also aware that this failure will make someone
>  > loose time deleting the pages... unless I'm given the right to
>  > delete pages for some hours to achieve the task.
>  > 
>  > How should we process then ?
>  
>  Hi Thomas,
>  
>  You can move any such page into the Archive using the 'move' tab,
>  renaming it with the word "Archive:" in front of the page name.  So
>  for instance "My_page" would become "Archive:My_page".  You may also
>  add the text '{{old}}' to the top of each page that needs to be
>  deprecated.  This will place them in a category for eventual deletion.
>  
>  If you're interested in helping with this type of deletion
>  maintenance, you can sign up on the wiki maintainers mailing list for
>  assistance:
>  
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki
>   

Thanks a lot for the help I'll do it asap :)

I signed up the wiki maintainers mailing list as well.

Thomas