Design Ideas/Sumissions

[Jonathan Steffan]

Team,

    So, my best skill is not designing stylish and good lookin'
websites. I can hack things along, but that is what they end up
looking like.

    I'm submitting a request for design ideas for a Fedora Pastebin. I
started something, it works, it looks ok; but the graphics are not
mine. On that note, if the graphics used are yours... may we use them?
;-) I found them on the wiki. Anywho, I'd love ideas and proposals. If
anyone has time to do a mock up, or even just give feedback, that
would be awesome. The second request is for a Fedora Search System.
Again, I can hack something together, but would rather spend the time
actually making the search system work well. Any feedback and design
mockups are very welcome.

    * Pastebin: http://f3dora.org/ (or http://paste.fedoraunity.org)
      ... (or hopefully also http://paste.fedoraproject.org/). The
      pastebin runs on turbo gears using the Stickum codebase
      (http://code.google.com/p/stickum/) which uses the genshi
      engine. I can port any design over to the template engine so
      don't restrict yourself worrying about what templating engine is
      in use.
    * Search System: http://searchfedora.org/ . This system has not
      been worked on for quite some time now. I just ran out of free
      time. I've started working on it again. It is really going to be
      awesome. I'd really like a kickass design for it as I see this
      system bringing great value to the community. I'm hoping I have
      time to fix it up in the next few days. I've been packaging up
      the code that runs it the last day or so and expect to run
      another index soon. The template engine is fairly homebrew, but
      has very, very few limitations. I'm looking to integrate a cool
      image I've found on the wiki
     
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...)
      but really can't spend time designing the interface while at the
      same time working on the backend.

    I really hope there is some interest from this team to be a part
of these two projects. I'll end up hacking together designs for both
if I don't find any takers. Thanks for working on Fedora! We all
appreciate the hard work our websites team puts into the look and feel
of our presence on the Internet.

Jonathan Steffan
daMaestro

[Kamisamanou Burgess]

On 9/13/07, Jonathan Steffan <jonathansteffan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Team,
>
>      So, my best skill is not designing stylish and good lookin'
>  websites. I can hack things along, but that is what they end up
>  looking like.
>
>      I'm submitting a request for design ideas for a Fedora Pastebin. I
>  started something, it works, it looks ok; but the graphics are not
>  mine. On that note, if the graphics used are yours... may we use them?
>  ;-) I found them on the wiki. Anywho, I'd love ideas and proposals. If
>  anyone has time to do a mock up, or even just give feedback, that
>  would be awesome. The second request is for a Fedora Search System.
>  Again, I can hack something together, but would rather spend the time
>  actually making the search system work well. Any feedback and design
>  mockups are very welcome.
>
>      * Pastebin: http://f3dora.org/ (or http://paste.fedoraunity.org)
>        ... (or hopefully also http://paste.fedoraproject.org/). The
>        pastebin runs on turbo gears using the Stickum codebase
>        (http://code.google.com/p/stickum/) which uses the genshi
>        engine. I can port any design over to the template engine so
>        don't restrict yourself worrying about what templating engine is
>        in use.
>      * Search System: http://searchfedora.org/ . This system has not
>        been worked on for quite some time now. I just ran out of free
>        time. I've started working on it again. It is really going to be
>        awesome. I'd really like a kickass design for it as I see this
>        system bringing great value to the community. I'm hoping I have
>        time to fix it up in the next few days. I've been packaging up
>        the code that runs it the last day or so and expect to run
>        another index soon. The template engine is fairly homebrew, but
>        has very, very few limitations. I'm looking to integrate a cool
>        image I've found on the wiki
>
>  (
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
>  )
>        but really can't spend time designing the interface while at the
>        same time working on the backend.
>
>      I really hope there is some interest from this team to be a part
>  of these two projects. I'll end up hacking together designs for both
>  if I don't find any takers. Thanks for working on Fedora! We all
>  appreciate the hard work our websites team puts into the look and feel
>  of our presence on the Internet.
>
>  Jonathan Steffan
>  daMaestro
>
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>  Fedora-websites-list(a)redhat.com
>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
>  

What exactly is the purpose of the PasteBin? Could you give an example of
how it would be used to benefit the community?
Also, you should talk to someone in the artwork list about those images.

-- 
Sayonara,
Kamisamanou Burgess
Kamisamanou.net - http://www.kamisamanou.net

[Jonathan Steffan]

Kamisamanou Burgess wrote:
>  On 9/13/07, Jonathan Steffan <jonathansteffan(a)gmail.com&gt;
> wrote:
>    
> > Team,
> >
> >     So, my best skill is not designing stylish and good lookin'
> > websites. I can hack things along, but that is what they end up
> > looking like.
> >
> >     I'm submitting a request for design ideas for a Fedora Pastebin.
> >
> > What exactly is the purpose of the PasteBin? Could you give an example of
> > how it would be used to benefit the community?
> > Also, you should talk to someone in the artwork list about those images.
> >      
We use pastebins extensively while supporting users on IRC. So we have a
choice of using a non-branded Fedora pastebin where we have no influence
over the look and functions of the pastebin, or we end up with users
using a "commercial" pastebin (read: pastebin with advertisements). We
can also develop a client that can be yum installed for helping users
share needed information. Inclusive, we could have predefined tests to
help us better support users via IRC. Example: irc-help --profile ...
will give us something like: uname -a; lspci [...] we could even import
smolt stuff (and even have the pastebin pass off the smolt profile).
There are lots of neat things we can do that will both help our IRC
users and those that support them.

If done correctly, the fedora pastebin would also be integrated with
other fedora systems. We could start FAQ items from issues found on the
pastebin. Integration with bugzilla. This discussion should be another
thread if others want to brainstorm.

Jonathan Steffan
daMaestro

[Paulo Santos]

Hey Jonathan,

You should coordinate with Ricky/lmacken here. They already have a working
stickum in our test environments, and i know that the developer of stickum
agreed in giving them access to the SVN. So you should get that also, and
have the oportunity to submit code (if it interests you of course).

The current implementation by Ricky is in:
http://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/stickum/

Luke also has one , already connected to FAS, but i think its currently
offline.


Thanks,
Paulo


On 9/14/07, Jonathan Steffan <jonathansteffan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Kamisamanou Burgess wrote:
>  > On 9/13/07, Jonathan Steffan <jonathansteffan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  >> Team,
>  >>
>  >>     So, my best skill is not designing stylish and good lookin'
>  >> websites. I can hack things along, but that is what they end up
>  >> looking like.
>  >>
>  >>     I'm submitting a request for design ideas for a Fedora Pastebin.
>  >>
>  >> What exactly is the purpose of the PasteBin? Could you give an example
>  of
>  >> how it would be used to benefit the community?
>  >> Also, you should talk to someone in the artwork list about those
>  images.
>  >>
>  We use pastebins extensively while supporting users on IRC. So we have a
>  choice of using a non-branded Fedora pastebin where we have no influence
>  over the look and functions of the pastebin, or we end up with users
>  using a "commercial" pastebin (read: pastebin with advertisements). We
>  can also develop a client that can be yum installed for helping users
>  share needed information. Inclusive, we could have predefined tests to
>  help us better support users via IRC. Example: irc-help --profile ...
>  will give us something like: uname -a; lspci [...] we could even import
>  smolt stuff (and even have the pastebin pass off the smolt profile).
>  There are lots of neat things we can do that will both help our IRC
>  users and those that support them.
>
>  If done correctly, the fedora pastebin would also be integrated with
>  other fedora systems. We could start FAQ items from issues found on the
>  pastebin. Integration with bugzilla. This discussion should be another
>  thread if others want to brainstorm.
>
>  Jonathan Steffan
>  daMaestro
>
>
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>  Fedora-websites-list(a)redhat.com
>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
>

[Jonathan Steffan]

Paulo Santos wrote:
>  Hey Jonathan,
>
>  You should coordinate with Ricky/lmacken here. They already have a working
>  stickum in our test environments, and i know that the developer of stickum
>  agreed in giving them access to the SVN. So you should get that also, and
>  have the oportunity to submit code (if it interests you of course).
>     
That's the plan. ;-)

>  The current implementation by Ricky is in:
>  http://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/stickum/
>     
Yes, I had seen it.

>  Luke also has one , already connected to FAS, but i think its
> currently
>  offline.
>     
This is good news.

I went with stickum so I could contribute to the source and we (read:
existing fedora infrastructure) will benefit. I don't want our pastebin
to be "just another pastebin" which are what the comments I've gotten so
far seem to state. I don't think there will be any objections in the
Fedora Unity group to use proper Fedora infrastructure hosting the
pastebin. We've wanted one for some time, I needed to learn turbogears
and we (Fedora Unity) just got a new dedicated server to run stuff on.
This was a good thing to get up and running and it gave me a break from
all the Plone work I've been working on. I will, of course, point any
domain in the public scope at the Fedora hosted pastebin. Right now,
this gives me the freedom to try new things without any red tape, not to
say we really have any, moreso I don't want to be responsible for
anything "bad" happening. Thanks for the feedback.

Jonathan Steffan
daMaestro

[Karsten Wade]

On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 23:06 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
>  using a "commercial" pastebin (read: pastebin with
> advertisements). We 
s/advertisements/advertisements where the ad money doesn't come back to the Fedora
community/

:)
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