Dear webmaster, You need to seriously consider reverting to the old website. The new one is buggy, incomplete, disfunctional, and just not well done. The old one was much more to the point, serious and well-designed. It just needed better navigation and content. You are making a big mistake with this website, and should take it down at least until it is noticeably improved. Have you even seen the site under the latest version of Google Chrome (not Chromium)? Check this out for size: https://uloadr.com/u/tcu.jpg
I'm sorry if I'm being a bit too critical, but I assure you I am completely well-intentioned. I implore you to take my request seriously.
NK
2010/10/29 Nadim Kobeissi nadim@nadim.cc:
Dear webmaster, You need to seriously consider reverting to the old website. The new one is buggy, incomplete, disfunctional, and just not well done. The old one was much more to the point, serious and well-designed. It just needed better navigation and content. You are making a big mistake with this website, and should take it down at least until it is noticeably improved. Have you even seen the site under the latest version of Google Chrome (not Chromium)? Check this out for size: https://uloadr.com/u/tcu.jpg
I'm sorry if I'm being a bit too critical, but I assure you I am completely well-intentioned. I implore you to take my request seriously.
NK
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Well I don't agree with you, i think the new site is awesome. The bug that you are seeing is caused by a caching problem. if you'll reload the page, it will magically disappear (we are doing our best to fix it). also, we checked the website in Chrome 8 (most recent development version) and it's working fine.
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 01:23:53AM -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Dear webmaster, You need to seriously consider reverting to the old website. The new one is buggy, incomplete, disfunctional, and just not well done. The old one was much more to the point, serious and well-designed. It just needed better navigation and content. You are making a big mistake with this website, and should take it down at least until it is noticeably improved. Have you even seen the site under the latest version of Google Chrome (not Chromium)? Check this out for size: https://uloadr.com/u/tcu.jpg
I'm sorry if I'm being a bit too critical, but I assure you I am completely well-intentioned. I implore you to take my request seriously.
Looks fine here under the latest version of Chrome (7.0.517.41) under Windows.
Ray
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ray Van Dolson rayvd@bludgeon.org Date: Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Go back to the old site, at least for now To: websites@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 01:23:53AM -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Dear webmaster, You need to seriously consider reverting to the old website. The new one is buggy, incomplete, disfunctional, and just not well done. The old one was much more to the point, serious and well-designed. It just needed better navigation and content. You are making a big mistake with this website, and should take it down at least until it is noticeably improved. Have you even seen the site under the latest version of Google Chrome (not Chromium)? Check this out for size: https://uloadr.com/u/tcu.jpg
I'm sorry if I'm being a bit too critical, but I assure you I am completely well-intentioned. I implore you to take my request seriously.
Looks fine here under the latest version of Chrome (7.0.517.41) under Windows.
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Nadim Kobeissi,
What is your Chrome version? What is your Internet speed? Do you have JS activated (not needed, but Chrom is not *the* reference browser) Try to reload the page as Elad said.
We just can't replicate your bug.
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 01:23 -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Dear webmaster, You need to seriously consider reverting to the old website. The new one is buggy, incomplete, disfunctional, and just not well done. The old one was much more to the point, serious and well-designed. It just needed better navigation and content. You are making a big mistake with this website, and should take it down at least until it is noticeably improved. Have you even seen the site under the latest version of Google Chrome (not Chromium)? Check this out for size: https://uloadr.com/u/tcu.jpg
I'm sorry if I'm being a bit too critical, but I assure you I am completely well-intentioned. I implore you to take my request seriously.
Are you a Windows user?
AFAIK the site has looked fine under chrome in Linux the entire time; there was a Windows-related rendering issue in Chrome that reports indicate has since been resolved.
~m
Thanks to the original reporter for your concern, I'd like to take a chance to explain why we work as we do.
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 09:56:30AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
AFAIK the site has looked fine under chrome in Linux the entire time; there was a Windows-related rendering issue in Chrome that reports indicate has since been resolved.
It is also worth noting that progress is made by progressing and not going backward.
Part of the open source development methodology as we practice it is to make changes and fix the bugs they introduce. If we wait until everything is perceived by us as being perfect and complete before we release it, we would be following a different methodology.
The fact is, a lot of work went in to making this site work and be useable when it went up. But it's guaranteed that something is going to break. Because the problems people are experiencing have been fixed so quickly, it's a sign that the methodology we are practicing is working. Going backward wouldn't get us moving forward.
I hope that helps you understand why we move forward even with the risk of breaking.
- Karsten
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 09:56 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 01:23 -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Dear webmaster, You need to seriously consider reverting to the old website. The new one is buggy, incomplete, disfunctional, and just not well done. The old one was much more to the point, serious and well-designed. It just needed better navigation and content. You are making a big mistake with this website, and should take it down at least until it is noticeably improved. Have you even seen the site under the latest version of Google Chrome (not Chromium)? Check this out for size: https://uloadr.com/u/tcu.jpg
I'm sorry if I'm being a bit too critical, but I assure you I am completely well-intentioned. I implore you to take my request seriously.
Are you a Windows user?
AFAIK the site has looked fine under chrome in Linux the entire time; there was a Windows-related rendering issue in Chrome that reports indicate has since been resolved.
Whoops that's actually a cached CSS issue, shift-reload the page and it should work fine.
~m
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