documentation for translation

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Hi docs team and websites team

As many of you already notice, translation team is planning to move from
Transifex to Zanata. The detailed info is available this page [1].
> From F22, we are looking at to accept translation at newly created
instance. Please notice that nothing is changed or impacted for F21.

Now I am gathering the information of all involved package owners, so
that I can send out necessary information for the move to each owner
timely manner. Could you kindly check the sheet '2nd-docs' or
'3rd-websites' in the spreadsheet [2] and advise if any deprecated
document, if any owner update, if any new document to add, etc?

Also we are going to set up adequate time frame to move for owners. Atm,
the plan is that 'upstream' and/or 'docs' start to move, and followed by
'websites' and 'main', rough estimation is one month.
How many weeks do your teams need to move? When the best timing for your
teams?

[1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata
[2]:https://docs.google.com/a/griffithuni.edu.au/spreadsheets/d/1EFvaz8Fd7...

Thanks in advance

noriko
Fedora Localization Project

[Robert Mayr]

2014-08-19 6:36 GMT+02:00 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Hi docs team and websites team 
Hi Noriko,
glad to hear from you.

>  As many of you already notice, translation team is planning to move
> from
>  Transifex to Zanata. The detailed info is available this page [1].
>  From F22, we are looking at to accept translation at newly created
>  instance. Please notice that nothing is changed or impacted for F21. 
Yes, websites are following the ongoing discussion on the trans ML and
previously on the Infra ML.
We are aware that nothing will change before F22, but from our side
something will change before.

>  Now I am gathering the information of all involved package owners,
> so
>  that I can send out necessary information for the move to each owner
>  timely manner. Could you kindly check the sheet '2nd-docs' or
>  '3rd-websites' in the spreadsheet [2] and advise if any deprecated
>  document, if any owner update, if any new document to add, etc? 
The spreadsheet is ok, all actual owners are listed and we won't have
any other projects so far.

>  Also we are going to set up adequate time frame to move for owners.
> Atm,
>  the plan is that 'upstream' and/or 'docs' start to move, and followed by
>  'websites' and 'main', rough estimation is one month.
>  How many weeks do your teams need to move? When the best timing for your
>  teams? 
I think the impact on the websites will be less important than in
other Projects. I guess the same POT file we are pushing regularly to
Transifex will be pushed to Zanata and that's it for us. We need to
change some scripts and verify that all owners have credentials to
manage the website repo there.

As I said before we will have an important change before F22, because
for F21 we are redesigning completely the websites of
fedoraproject.org. I hope all the work done by the L10n teams can be
migrated cleanly without any needs to do the work twice.
Can you let us know if that will be the case? Otherwise I fear that
translators will have to translate the new strings first on TX and
then on Zanata.
We will let you know in time when we are going to create the new
fedora.next branch, which will be merged into the master branch once
we are near to F21 GA Release.

>  [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata
>
> [2]:https://docs.google.com/a/griffithuni.edu.au/spreadsheets/d/1EFvaz8Fd7...
>
>  Thanks in advance
>
>  noriko
>  Fedora Localization Project 
Thanks to you for your effort.

-- 
Robert Mayr
(robyduck)

[Petr Kovar]

Hi Noriko and guide owners,

It seems the list of guide owners in the spreadsheet was taken directly from
the data stored in Tx. The data there does not necessarily reflect
who is the actual guide owner/maintainer. You can find a more up-to-date
list at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_guides_table

Note that the table also includes links to individual Tx projects, I think
pretty much all of them are good candidates for migration to Zanata. Again,
some of them may not be included in the Fedora Project hub in Tx. Others
are already hosted in Zanata on translate.zanata.org, e.g. the
Installation Guide.

Guide owners, could you please check the information in the table and make
any necessary changes for your guides?

Just thinking loud here... I guess our guide table - FAS writer accounts
will require some manual mapping if we want to have all the owners
assigned to their guides during the migration. Or we could first assign all
the guides to a number of delegated owners, and then reassign to individual
guide owners once the migration is complete. Your thoughts?

Cheers,
pk


On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:36:41 +1000
Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

>  Hi docs team and websites team
>  
>  As many of you already notice, translation team is planning to move from
>  Transifex to Zanata. The detailed info is available this page [1].
>  From F22, we are looking at to accept translation at newly created
>  instance. Please notice that nothing is changed or impacted for F21.
>  
>  Now I am gathering the information of all involved package owners, so
>  that I can send out necessary information for the move to each owner
>  timely manner. Could you kindly check the sheet '2nd-docs' or
>  '3rd-websites' in the spreadsheet [2] and advise if any deprecated
>  document, if any owner update, if any new document to add, etc?
>  
>  Also we are going to set up adequate time frame to move for owners. Atm,
>  the plan is that 'upstream' and/or 'docs' start to move, and followed by
>  'websites' and 'main', rough estimation is one month.
>  How many weeks do your teams need to move? When the best timing for your
>  teams?
>  
>  [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata
>
> [2]:https://docs.google.com/a/griffithuni.edu.au/spreadsheets/d/1EFvaz8Fd7...
>  
>  Thanks in advance
>  
>  noriko
>  Fedora Localization Project
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[Noriko Mizumoto]

(2014年08月19日 18:44), Robert Mayr wrote:
>  2014-08-19 6:36 GMT+02:00 Noriko Mizumoto
> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> > Hi docs team and websites team
>  
>  Hi Noriko,
>  glad to hear from you.
>  
> > As many of you already notice, translation team is planning to move from
> > Transifex to Zanata. The detailed info is available this page [1].
> >  From F22, we are looking at to accept translation at newly created
> > instance. Please notice that nothing is changed or impacted for F21.
>  
>  Yes, websites are following the ongoing discussion on the trans ML and
>  previously on the Infra ML.
>  We are aware that nothing will change before F22, but from our side
>  something will change before.
>  
> > Now I am gathering the information of all involved package owners, so
> > that I can send out necessary information for the move to each owner
> > timely manner. Could you kindly check the sheet '2nd-docs' or
> > '3rd-websites' in the spreadsheet [2] and advise if any deprecated
> > document, if any owner update, if any new document to add, etc?
>  
>  The spreadsheet is ok, all actual owners are listed and we won't have
>  any other projects so far. 
Thank you for your confirmation!

>  
> > Also we are going to set up adequate time frame to move for owners. Atm,
> > the plan is that 'upstream' and/or 'docs' start to move, and followed
> by
> > 'websites' and 'main', rough estimation is one month.
> > How many weeks do your teams need to move? When the best timing for your
> > teams?
>  
>  I think the impact on the websites will be less important than in
>  other Projects. I guess the same POT file we are pushing regularly to
>  Transifex will be pushed to Zanata and that's it for us. We need to
>  change some scripts and verify that all owners have credentials to
>  manage the website repo there. 
For scripts, if need some help, there is the document called
'Configuring the Client' in zanata help page [1]. For credentials, there
is no document atm but it is requested and will be provided at the time
of the move.
[1]:http://zanata.org/help/

>  
>  As I said before we will have an important change before F22, because
>  for F21 we are redesigning completely the websites of
>  fedoraproject.org. I hope all the work done by the L10n teams can be
>  migrated cleanly without any needs to do the work twice.
>  Can you let us know if that will be the case? Otherwise I fear that
>  translators will have to translate the new strings first on TX and
>  then on Zanata. 
It should depend what change to be made, I guess. I've added Carlos in
CC, so that he can answer the question.

>  We will let you know in time when we are going to create the new
>  fedora.next branch, which will be merged into the master branch once
>  we are near to F21 GA Release. 
Thank you so much!

noriko

>  
> > [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata
> >
> [2]:https://docs.google.com/a/griffithuni.edu.au/spreadsheets/d/1EFvaz8Fd7...
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > noriko
> > Fedora Localization Project
>  
>  Thanks to you for your effort.
>