[fedora-websites] #314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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  Reporter:  sommerfeldt  |      Owner:  webmaster
      Type:  defect       |     Status:  new
  Priority:  major        |  Milestone:
 Component:  General      |   Keywords:  localisation i18n
Blocked By:               |   Blocking:
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 1. fedoraproject.org chooses the locale de_CH for me automatically
 although I don't live in Swiss but at the northern border of Germany
 instead, just a few km away from Denmark, and so de_DE would be the
 correct choice.

 2. Even if de_CH would be the right choice (which isn't, see above), why
 does de_CH mean that the English version of the web pages are shown and
 not the German ones?

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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 Reporter:  sommerfeldt        |       Owner:  webmaster
     Type:  defect             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major              |   Milestone:
Component:  General            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  localisation i18n  |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                     |
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Comment (by cydrobolt):

 Hi,

 Geolocation and language detection is never 100% accurate. It probably did
 not detect the correct language from your IP or your browser.

 No one has translated getfedora.org into de_CH, thus the English version
 is shown.

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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 Reporter:  sommerfeldt        |       Owner:  webmaster
     Type:  defect             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major              |   Milestone:
Component:  General            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  localisation i18n  |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                     |
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Comment (by sommerfeldt):

 I understand that it's never 100% accurate. But I had the same problem
 when I lived in a different town of Germany (about 300km away from here),
 and when visiting friends living in other cities (for example at the
 center of Germany). And it doesn't matter if I use Firefox or Chrome or
 Chromium or Midori. Furthermore I do not have this problem with any other
 web site, e.g. the geolocation here at fedorahosted.org is correct, it
 gives me the German version of the pages automatically, with Firefox,
 Chrome and Midori (w/o logging in).

 All these facts lets me assume that this is not a problem with geolocation
 accuracy, but a real bug instead. (In fact currently I don't believe
 anybody does see the German version automatically, without changing
 language manually.)

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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 Reporter:  sommerfeldt        |       Owner:  webmaster
     Type:  defect             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major              |   Milestone:
Component:  General            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  localisation i18n  |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                     |
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Comment (by robyduck):

 These issues most of the times happen due to different settings in your
 browser or system. Certainly we can check this but from a fast overview it
 should be all correct.

 Btw, fedorahosted does NOT have the de_CH localization, so it will be
 always de only, for suisse and german folks. Also, are we talking about
 getfedora.org, right? Or which website are you looking at? Spins perhaps?
 (fedoraproject.org is not longer active)

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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 Reporter:  sommerfeldt        |       Owner:  webmaster
     Type:  defect             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major              |   Milestone:
Component:  General            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  localisation i18n  |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                     |
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Comment (by sommerfeldt):

 I just booted a (different) laptop with Windows 7 and tried Internet
 Explorer and Firefox on that system, same result.

 Regarding the URL: Shame on me, I didn't notice the URL redirection to
 getfedora.org. So yes, we are talking about getfedora.org.

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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 Reporter:  sommerfeldt        |       Owner:  webmaster
     Type:  defect             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major              |   Milestone:
Component:  General            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  localisation i18n  |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                     |
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Comment (by sommerfeldt):

 In the meantime I have asked several people (about 20) living in different
 towns of Germany to visit getfedora.org. No-one of them has seen this site
 in German, and all of them got the "de_CH" version when clicking on
 "Workstation".

 So the localisation algorithm on getfedora.org simply do not know Germany
 at all.

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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 Reporter:  sommerfeldt        |       Owner:  webmaster
     Type:  defect             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major              |   Milestone:
Component:  General            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  localisation i18n  |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                     |
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Comment (by robyduck):

 Thanks for this update. Does this happen only with getfedora.org or also
 with other websites? How does spins.fedoraproject.org look? It should have
 the same behavior, but perhaps not. And what about start.fpo?

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#314: fedoraproject.org thinks that I'm living in Swiss, why?
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 Reporter:  sommerfeldt        |       Owner:  webmaster
     Type:  defect             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major              |   Milestone:
Component:  General            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  localisation i18n  |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                     |
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Comment (by sommerfeldt):

 As far as I can tell this seems to be a problem with getfedora.org only.
 But the behaviour was the same on the old (pre-F21) www.fedoraproject.org
 page where the problem was more obvious since "Schwyzerdütsch" (=de_CH)
 was shown as selected language in the upper right corner of the page.

 http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ shows in German for me, so no problem
 here. On http://start.fedoraproject.org/ there are at least two German
 words ("Fedora-Dokumentation" and "Sponsoren") so I assume this is
the
 German version, too.

 BTW: When visiting www.redhat.com I see the English version of the website
 ("en"), if I want to see the German one ("de") I have to switch the
 language manually. But I don't know if this behavior is intended or not
 here.

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