Re: Regarding behaviour of Gnome and Fedora members

[John M. Harris Jr]

On Friday, June 12, 2020 3:50:59 AM MST Ty Young wrote:
>  Hi all,
>  
>  
>  Gnome recently has stirred up controversy lately and aren't taking other 
>  people's opinions very well, to say the least. So far they've locked 
>  three threads:
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>  
>  https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/gz6fks/we_must_all_speak_up/
>  
>  https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h107as/i_agree_with_the_we_all_must_
>  speak_up_and_the/  
 
>  
>  https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h0ml37/distrotube_has_posted_a_disgu
>  sting_video_calling/ 
 
>  
>  They have engaged in racism and censorship in their subreddit's comment 
>  sections and, just recently, banned me for posting this article, which 
>  I've made:
>  
>  
>  https://medium.com/@youngty1997/gnome-needs-to-be-better-2151965fd663
>  
>  
>  You may read it for yourself. In it I cite violations of Gnome's Code of 
>  Conduct by members of the GNOME foundation or the GNOME 
>  foundation(gnome.org email address), both on their subreddit and from 
>  fedora-devel list. I tried to cite as much as possible but Gnome 
>  moderators refused to hand over the moderation logs for when they locked 
>  a thread for reporting a bug when asked. I'm confident that they know 
>  what I'm talking about but just refuse to hand it over.
>  
>  
>  Keep in mind that, in Gnome's subreddit rules, it's perfectly OK to 
>  criticize GNOME in GNOME's subreddit. It's even in the sidebar, which 
>  you cannot see on old reddit(something I've told them about multiple 
>  times, but they've ignored repeatedly to fix):
>  
>  
>  "We do not shy away from criticism, in fact, we encourage it!"
>  
>  
>  GNOME members have recently said that "This mixing of ideas from a wide 
>  range of backgrounds is something that has improved free and open source 
>  software, and it should be highly valued."
>  
>  
>  However, their actions by locking threads and now banned me for sharing 
>  an article I had made goes against this statement. To be crystal clear 
>  here, the opinions shared in the article are not *just* my own. You may 
>  also read people who agree with my opinions in comment sections of the 
>  GNOME subreddit and Fedora subreddit which I shared it to:
>  
>  
>  https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/h7de62/gnome_needs_to_be_better/
>  
>  https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h7ddom/gnome_needs_to_be_better/
>  
>  
>  Gnome did not say that any new threads on the topic could be made nor 
>  was there any rule breakage that I could find. I would have loved to 
>  cite more things but alas, I don't have access to the information.
>  
>  
>  Sadly the moderators of each respective subreddits have censored the 
>  threads, and not even snew shows them for some reason. I've tried 
>  contacting the fedora subreddit moderators but I have a feeling they 
>  won't ever answer.
>  
>  
>  I was planning on fileing a Code of Conduct violation, but GNOME refused 
>  to turn over the requested moderation logs, so I couldn't do so and, 
>  Gnome's Code of Conduct hints as what the result will be anyway. I have 
>  zero confidence that anything will be done, so here I am sending an email.
>  
>  
>  So, could anything be done about any of this? 
The projects themselves don't care what we actually support, it's the views of 
a very vocal handful that get thrown onto those sorts of things. Not a whole 
lot we can do about it, Ty.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.