On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203(a)freenet.de>wrote:
On 03/13/2013 01:32 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On 03/12/2013 07:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>> I am saying this because I agree. To me the proposal (not the original
>> but some point in the the 500 ms boot time "ideal" ) seemed very much
>> a welded shut view. And as someone who has to worked on welded shut
>> computers for asthetic reasons.. it brings out the fighting urge in
>> me.
>>
>
> Did you guys actually read the blog post? Is aesthetics cited in any of
> the reasons for hiding the menu? No, it's not. These were the reasons I
> cited in favor of the proposal to hide the menu:
>
- We used to suppress the boot menu by default in earlier releases and
> its suppression didn’t cause major problems.
>
Well, at least for me, re-activating has always been a part of the routine
after-install cleanup job, ever since I am using RH-based distros.
- Not listening for keypresses doesn’t probe USB, meaning not waiting
> for keypresses will make boot even faster since we won’t have to
> load/probe USB.
>
Is this of any importance? Non-USB-equipped systems are rare to find these
days, so loading/probing USB will be inevitable in the majority of cases.
Right now, we're probing USB twice -- one in the initrd, and once when the
real kernel starts up. Making the boot menu optional will remove one of
those probes.
- (Nobody explicitly stated this, but) Displaying information geared
towards power users by default is intimidating / confusing to
less-knowledgeable users."
I'd call this to be an urban legend. A boot menu is self-explanatory, even
to new-comers.
It may baffle them when they see it for the first time, but will very soon
get used to it.
For me, personally, I remember it being uncomforting and scary.
Please be fair.
>
Please do so - I feel you are trying to solve a non-issue.
Ralf
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