1:28 p.m.
<couf> jmbuser: welcome back
* jmbuser had my required disconnect - now let's have the meeting
<jmbuser> quaid: ping
<couf> jmbuser: it seems it's just us :-/
<jmbuser> couf: Shall we have a meeting?
<couf> jmbuser: well we don't have quorum, so if you want to discuss
something go ahead, otherwise we might have to cancel
<jmbuser> Let's wait and see if anyone shows up - 1 more minute
<jmbuser> couf: still there?
<couf> jmbuser: yep
<jmbuser> couf: Is it worthwhile having a 2 -person meeting?
<ivazquez> Sometimes. But it's not really worth scheduling unless both
people are exceptionally busy.
<couf> jmbuser: not really
<couf> ivazquez: true
<jmbuser> ivazquez: Are you here for the meeting? - welcome
<ivazquez> Mostly just to eavesdrop.
<jmbuser> couf: ok - we can have a brief meeting then - agreed?
<couf> jmbuser: sure
<jmbuser> Ok, if you don't mind, I'll start with the agenda:
* jmbuser asks for patience with his slow internet connection
<jmbuser> See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings
<jmbuser> Agenda item 1 - Proposed by Marketing team in their meeting
yesterday.
<couf> heh both topics can be linked to yesterday's marketing meeting
<jmbuser> couf: true
<jmbuser> Here's no.1 : *
<jmbuser> Marketing team proposal to republish, on docs.fp.o,
FedoraUnity.org docs for creating re-spins. See
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2007-October/msg00058.html
for details.
<jmbuser> couf: Thoughts, opinions?
<couf> well it's definitly a good idea, the only drawback here is that
does docs are 100% about revisor, neglecting pungi and livecd-tools
<couf> note: this is an opinion with just briefly looking at the docs
* couf tries to get kanarip in here
<jmbuser> couf: Do we make that clear and try and get someone to fill
the gaps on pungi especially? Livecd-tools at least has a fairly good
page or two,,,
<couf> jmbuser: it's a distinction we really need to make
<jmbuser> couf: Without discriminating among the 3, are we promoting
all 3 at the same time?
<jmbuser> Is there a preferred method or whatever works for whomever?
<couf> from a user-perspective revisor is the best way to go,
developper/sysadmin would probably like pungi
<couf> revisor builds on top of pungi/livecd so it's basicly the same
principles
<jmbuser> Is wevisor (web-based revisor) usable today - and therefore an option?
<couf> well there is a proof of concept running at
https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/wevisor/ but no idea what
the status is
<jmbuser> couf: To be practical, I guess we need a "table of contents"
and start with revisor and add the others as time permits - links to
what exists today
<couf> right
<jmbuser> I really would like a volunteer since I promised a DUG for F8
<jmbuser> and don't want to be overcommitted
<couf> jmbuser: I'll see what I can do
<couf> I'll try to get kanarip and daMaestro on board and it could go fast then
<jmbuser> couf: I didn't mean YOU had to be the volunteer :-)
<jmbuser> but kanarip and daMaestro are more than welcome to help out
<couf> jmbuser: yeah I know, but I just want to get this thing over with :-)
<jmbuser> ok, shall we move on to agenda item 2?
<couf> yep
<jmbuser> 2 - Publishing howto's to docs.fp.o: increase visibility of
the site and might have positive influence on our contributor flow-in
<couf> give me 2 min, need to feed the dogs
<jmbuser> OK
<jmbuser> Does this refer to the COSS Summercode 2007 project by vpv -
see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SummerOfCode/2007/VillePekkaVainio?
* jmbuser waits for couf to return
* couf returns
<couf> ah sort off / might be part of it
<jmbuser> vpv: ping
* jmbuser sees vpv is away but hopes
<couf> I just struck me that not many people know about docs.fp.o and
that it could be usefull to get some more stuff on it to draw
attention
<couf> the idea basicly came from one guy how just joined this weekend
having this great site full of howto's which he might transfer to us
<jmbuser> That sounds promising
* couf looks for the mail
<couf> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2007-October/msg00059.html
<couf> site is: http://www.fedoraguide.info/index.php/Main_Page
<couf> we will need to filter out stuff that's on it b/c of the legal stuff
* jmbuser waits for his sluggish internet
<couf> which actually leads to: what howto stuff is on our wiki that
could/should be part off this new "thing"
<jmbuser> I see the self-introduction
<jmbuser> and the fedoraguide is slowly coming
<couf> ah, this has some relationship with the kbase-idea of old
<jmbuser> ok, got the website
<jmbuser> Is the general ideas to bring over the "legal" topics and
perhaps leave the other topics as an unofficial guide?
<couf> I'm not sure, we should that with Marc (Strikeforce)
<couf> probably the only way to go
<jmbuser> couf: ok - I remember Strikeforce from the marketing
meeting - is he seeking access so he can help bring it over - at least
the permissible stuff?
<couf> jmbuser: if I got it right, yes that's just it
<couf> otoh, I could be really, really wrong too :-)
<jmbuser> This would be a great contribution for an new FDP member to
make - pretty easy to bring over with guidance with a quick and good
payoff
* jmbuser assumes Strikeforce would be agreeable to the official
Fedora guidelines
<couf> right
* Libbe (n=espenas(a)178.80-202-101.nextgentel.com) has joined #fedora-docs
* couf notes: I don't have much time left
<jmbuser> couf: Any other topics or shall we wrap it up?
<vpv> jmbuser: maybe somewhat, but you know my project dealt with man
and info pages, not the documentation you write here
* vpv notes he has midterm exams coming up, so he can't be very active right now
<jmbuser> vpv: Thanks for tuning in - is your project ready for
publication (when you have time, that is)?
<couf> jmbuser: wrap up, unless you've got anything else?
* jmbuser gives vpv a chance to respond
<vpv> jmbuser: not really, it needs some work still, I have planned to
send a "call for help" mail to the list
<vpv> those who are interested could have a look at
http://www.mindtrek.org/pdf/presentations/workshops/summer_coders/esitys-...
<jmbuser> vpv: fair enough - please send that email when you feel it
is the appropriate time
<vpv> that's my presentation in the OpenMind conference
* couf needs to run
<jmbuser> vpv: thanks - If there's nothing else, let's close the
meeting - thanks
* jmbuser declares end of meeting
<couf> jmbuser: cool, thanks man
<vpv> thanks :)
<jmbuser> likewise