On Jun 4, 2015 6:32 AM, "Ruth Suehle" <rsuehle(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:30 AM, P J P <pjp(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 4 June 2015 4:28 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > These are all worth discussing, but the regional events are already
> > planned for this year. We'll need to address this after Flock, FUDCon
> > Pune, etc.
> Or maybe at these events too, instead of after. We plan to have an
ambassador's panel discussion at FUDCon, IMO unified global event could be
one of the topic for such a panel.
> Similarly at Flock, it could be posed to the Fedora council members.
thought, since both these events are still in the making.
Remember that this is not new. The events have always been regional. We
combined the NA and EMEA two years ago. We also chose to go to a
planned schedule, which the other regions are welcome to adopt as well.
(Someone told me that the early FUDCons were done this way as well, but I
wasn't at all of those.)
If you do discuss this at the LATAM and APAC FUDCons, I'd be happy to
the phone or IRC to offer some budgetary insight. We've discussed
subsidies on this list and at Flock before, and no one solution is going to
satisfy everyone. But the reality is that the Flock travel budget has been
largely consumed for both years by flights from APAC and LATAM. People in
those regions have their own premier Fedora events and some are in a sense
"double dipping" by being funded to attend both. The NA and EMEA people
don't have that chance, which means by giving the bulk of the travel
funding to APAC and LATAM, we were taking away any chance for the NA and
EMEA people to attend a premier Fedora event while the APAC and LATAM
contributors were getting two chances.
We did discuss whether it was logical to combine all of the global
budgets into one and have a single event. I added up people
who received subsidies last year in APAC and LATAM. If we were to fund the
same number of people with the ENTIRE LATAM and APAC FUDCon budgets, we
would be able to give each $500. Since most people require both hotel and
flights to be covered (few are willing/able to travel on partial
subsidies), the effect would be that many folks would be left with no event
to attend at all, which to me seems like a far worse outcome than regional
If ie APAC is given a $20K budget for FUDCon, and they have leftovers -
whether by getting third party sponsors, saving, reducing, whatever - can
the leftover funding go to APAC contributor funding for flock? I know
little about the budget process, but it makes sense to me if regions could
help themselves this way.