i18n October 2013

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#26: proposal: move to using IMEs for ASCII/Latin input
by Fedora Internationalization 06 Jul '14

06 Jul '14

#26: proposal: move to using IMEs for ASCII/Latin input -----------------------+------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: i18n@… Type: meeting | Status: new Priority: major | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: -----------------------+------------------- = phenomenon = Currently in Fedora for languages with non-Latin scripts we normally switch between a xkb layout as an input source for inputting Latin/ASCII characters and an IME for inputting native characters. ibus-kkc and ibus-libpinyin both have Latin ("English") input methods. I think it is more natural for primary users of these IMEs to use them by default for Latin character input. So I want to suggest that for F21 we could default Japanese input to use only the kkc IME and Chinese to libpinyin IME, ie no additional keyboard layout source would be needed. Multilingual users might still need an additional keyboard layout input source and that is still fine. Other IMEs might also be extended to support Latin input modes in the future: initially we could do it for those default IMEs that support it. For example I am already using ibus-kkc for both Latin and Japanese input and it works well - I toggle easily between direct and ja input. Perhaps the only change needed for the current IMEs with Latin mode might be input mode state caching, ie using the same mode as last time. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/26> Fedora Internationalization <http://fedorahosted.org/i18n/> Fedora i18n Project

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#25: Bugs Corner
by Fedora Internationalization 18 Mar '14

18 Mar '14

#25: Bugs Corner -----------------------+------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: i18n@… Type: meeting | Status: new Priority: major | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: -----------------------+------------------- This bug is for proposing any i18n bugs to be discussed during the Bugs Corner section of the weekly irc meeting. To bring up a Fedora bug for discussion just paste the bugzilla url into this ticket. (This ticket may be used for during the F20 development cycle.) -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/25> Fedora Internationalization <http://fedorahosted.org/i18n/> Fedora i18n Project

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#23: Fedora 20 i18n test day
by Fedora Internationalization 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

#23: Fedora 20 i18n test day ----------------------+------------------- Reporter: tagoh | Owner: i18n@… Type: meeting | Status: new Priority: major | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ----------------------+------------------- = phenomenon = It is time to think about i18n test day for f20. for references: Schedule: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule QA ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/409 -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/23> Fedora Internationalization <http://fedorahosted.org/i18n/> Fedora i18n Project

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : i18n
by Akira TAGOH 28 Oct '13

28 Oct '13

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting : i18n on 2013-10-23 from 06:00:00 to 07:00:00 The meeting will be about: Weekly i18n meeting. see i18n list and wiki for schedule and agenda

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Re: Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!
by Pravin Satpute 23 Oct '13

23 Oct '13

On गुरुवार 24 ऑक्टोबर 2013 08:08 म.पू., Aravinda VK wrote: > Hi, > > As per my observations only blwf and akhn has difference between knda > and knda2. Following table shows the difference > > knda knd2 > blwf c + h h +c > akhn c + h h + c > > where h is halant and c is consonant. > > I implemented this in Gubbi(Still has some issues), GSUB rules can be > referred here. > https://github.com/aravindavk/Gubbi/blob/master/tools/gsub.fea That is very useful. We definitely refer gubbi feature file. Thanks, Pravin Satpute > > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Sneha Kore <skore(a)redhat.com > <mailto:skore@redhat.com>> wrote: > > hello, > > As already specified in the original mail , Lohit kannada needs > some improvements , I would like to mention that I have already > gone through the task of GSUB cleanup & started to work for Glyph > naming task. > > Regards, > Sneha Kore > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Pravin Satpute" <psatpute(a)redhat.com > <mailto:psatpute@redhat.com>> > >To: lohit-devel-list(a)redhat.com <mailto:lohit-devel-list@redhat.com> > >Cc: pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com > <mailto:pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>, hallimanearavind(a)gmail.com > <mailto:hallimanearavind@gmail.com>, omshivaprakash(a)gmail.com > <mailto:omshivaprakash@gmail.com>, skore(a)redhat.com > <mailto:skore@redhat.com>, svenkate(a)redhat.com > <mailto:svenkate@redhat.com>, samjnaa(a)gmail.com > <mailto:samjnaa@gmail.com>, i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > <mailto:i18n@lists.fedoraproject.org>, > indlinux-group(a)lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:indlinux-group@lists.sourceforge.net> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:56:39 PM > >Subject: Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !! > > > >Hi All, > > > > First some update on existing activities of lohit2 project, > planning > >for Lohit-Devanagari Beta and Lohit-Gujarati Alpha release by the > next > >week. > > > > Regarding Lohit-Kannada other than same improvements for other > >script fonts like > > > > 1. Following AGL while renaming lohit-gujarati > > 2. Feature file separate as done in lohit-devanagari > > 3. Supporting "knda" and "knd2" Opent type tag > > 4. Thorough testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe (will test with > >Windows XP as well to make sure webfonts will render correctly > everywhere) > > > > There are some more things needs attention > > > > 1. Removing unnecessary glyphs. Bug for that already reported by > >Shriramana [a] > > 2. Some other needed attentions are [b][c] > > > > From designing perspective, i dont know why each glyph in Lohit > >Kannada carries negative witdh, see right bearing. It will be > good if we > >can get rid of it. It will be appreciated if someone can help me > to fix > >this. > > > > These are the points from myside, if anything missing or need > >attention please let me know. On the top of this need lots of > help from > >you all for testing activity. > > > > Development is going on https://github.com/pravins/lohit2 > repo. Once > >get ready for alpha, will merge it main lohit repo. > > > > > >Best Regards, > >Pravin Satpute > > > >a. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825115 > >b. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825081 > >c. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827516 > > > > > > > -- > Regards > Aravinda | ಅರವಿಂದ > http://aravindavk.in

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Re: Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!
by Pravin Satpute 23 Oct '13

23 Oct '13

On बुधवार 23 ऑक्टोबर 2013 05:18 म.नं., Pavanaja U B wrote: > Rendering on Win XP will be different from Win7 and later versions in some > special cases. The Unicode PR-37 was not implemented in the rendering engine > of Win XP. It was implemented on Win 7 (or was it Vista? Anyhow, nobody is > using Vista as such :-) ) and later. This is my understanding. Yes, do agree. Supporting both knda and knd2 is challenging. But we have to try for it since Lohit fonts are used as a Web fonts as well and it should render correctly on most of the platform. I think by Alpha release we will have better picture. Regards, Pravin Satpute > Regards, > Pavanaja > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pravin Satpute [mailto:psatpute@redhat.com] > Sent: 23 October 2013 16:57 > To: lohit-devel-list(a)redhat.com > Cc: pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com; hallimanearavind(a)gmail.com; > omshivaprakash(a)gmail.com; skore(a)redhat.com; svenkate(a)redhat.com; > samjnaa(a)gmail.com; i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org; > indlinux-group(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !! > > Hi All, > > First some update on existing activities of lohit2 project, planning for > Lohit-Devanagari Beta and Lohit-Gujarati Alpha release by the next week. > > Regarding Lohit-Kannada other than same improvements for other script > fonts like > > 1. Following AGL while renaming lohit-gujarati > 2. Feature file separate as done in lohit-devanagari > 3. Supporting "knda" and "knd2" Opent type tag > 4. Thorough testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe (will test with Windows > XP as well to make sure webfonts will render correctly everywhere) > > There are some more things needs attention > > 1. Removing unnecessary glyphs. Bug for that already reported by > Shriramana [a] > 2. Some other needed attentions are [b][c] > > From designing perspective, i dont know why each glyph in Lohit Kannada > carries negative witdh, see right bearing. It will be good if we can get rid > of it. It will be appreciated if someone can help me to fix this. > > These are the points from myside, if anything missing or need attention > please let me know. On the top of this need lots of help from you all for > testing activity. > > Development is going on https://github.com/pravins/lohit2 repo. Once get > ready for alpha, will merge it main lohit repo. > > > Best Regards, > Pravin Satpute > > a. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825115 > b. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825081 > c. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827516 > > >

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Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!
by Pravin Satpute 23 Oct '13

23 Oct '13

Hi All, First some update on existing activities of lohit2 project, planning for Lohit-Devanagari Beta and Lohit-Gujarati Alpha release by the next week. Regarding Lohit-Kannada other than same improvements for other script fonts like 1. Following AGL while renaming lohit-gujarati 2. Feature file separate as done in lohit-devanagari 3. Supporting "knda" and "knd2" Opent type tag 4. Thorough testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe (will test with Windows XP as well to make sure webfonts will render correctly everywhere) There are some more things needs attention 1. Removing unnecessary glyphs. Bug for that already reported by Shriramana [a] 2. Some other needed attentions are [b][c] From designing perspective, i dont know why each glyph in Lohit Kannada carries negative witdh, see right bearing. It will be good if we can get rid of it. It will be appreciated if someone can help me to fix this. These are the points from myside, if anything missing or need attention please let me know. On the top of this need lots of help from you all for testing activity. Development is going on https://github.com/pravins/lohit2 repo. Once get ready for alpha, will merge it main lohit repo. Best Regards, Pravin Satpute a. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825115 b. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825081 c. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827516

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : i18n
by Akira TAGOH 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting : i18n on 2013-10-23 from 06:00:00 to 07:00:00 The meeting will be about: Weekly i18n meeting. see i18n list and wiki for schedule and agenda

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#27: Thursday to Wednesday for the meeting
by Fedora Internationalization 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

#27: Thursday to Wednesday for the meeting ----------------------+------------------- Reporter: tagoh | Owner: i18n@… Type: meeting | Status: new Priority: major | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ----------------------+------------------- = phenomenon = short summary: Thursday 0600 UTC to Wednesday 0600 UTC to have our meeting Details: I'd like to propose the change of a day of the week from Thursday to Wednesday, because most events at Fedora usually happens Tuesday. so we can have more working time by the due date after some notice since this change. This doesn't propose any changes for the time BTW. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/27> Fedora Internationalization <http://fedorahosted.org/i18n/> Fedora i18n Project

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#24: Fedora 20 i18n docbeats
by Fedora Internationalization 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

#24: Fedora 20 i18n docbeats ----------------------+------------------- Reporter: tagoh | Owner: i18n@… Type: meeting | Status: new Priority: major | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ----------------------+------------------- = phenomenon = it is time to think about updating i18n docbeats. for references: i18n docbeats: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat Schedule: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-docs- tasks.html Workflow: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_workflow_- _beat_writing Style guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_Style_Guide -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/24> Fedora Internationalization <http://fedorahosted.org/i18n/> Fedora i18n Project

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