On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:11 PM Peter Boy <pboy(a)uni-bremen.de> wrote:
> Am 08.11.2021 um 23:51 schrieb Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>:
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:45 PM Peter Boy <pboy(a)uni-bremen.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Am 07.11.2021 um 21:11 schrieb Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 12:16:30PM +0100, Peter Boy wrote:
>>>> In Fedora 34 the default editor was nano, for Workstation and also for
>>>> Server. In my latest default F35 Server installation I noticed
>>>> vim-default-editor was installed.
>>>> Did some good soul take pity and bring vim back to us or did something
go
>>>> wrong with my installation?
>>>
>>> Hmmm, interesting. I don't see anything in the repo with requires or
>>> recommends that package....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthew Miller
>>> <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
>>> Fedora Project Leader
>>
>>
>> Just for fun I double checked and did fresh install
>>
>> …
>>
>> So, in F34 there was a default-nano-editor.
>>
>> In F35 no default-nano-editor at all, instead a default-vim-editor that was not
present in F34.
>>
>> I don’t want to complain, in contrary, I appreciate that.
>>
>> There must be a good soul in the Fedora universe who takes pity on server
administrators.
>>
>
> Hardly. This is definitely a bug that should be fixed. Having an
> unfriendly editor by default is a terrible thing.
It’s definitely not a bug nor an unfriendly editor for Server admins and there is no need
to fix it. The vim package contains so many useful things like vimdiff to easily compare
config files after update, as an example. It was a bug to change it for Server, too.
For Workstation people nano may be the better choice, indeed.
Shipping nano as the default editor isn't the same as not shipping vim
on servers. And you're making a dangerous assumption that everyone
using Fedora Server knows how to work with Vim. I assure you, that is
far from true. Note that *the most popular server distribution*
(Ubuntu) uses nano as the default editor as well, for *precisely* this
reason.
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