On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 17:36 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 21.02.2014 17:16, schrieb Simo Sorce:
> On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 16:00 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 02/21/2014 03:34 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
>>> You can't seriously have expected to be able to drop in and say
>>> "networkd is the future!" and have everyone nod their head
silently...
>>> Networking is a very complex topic.
>>
>> Does not change the fact that networkd is replacing the legacy network
>> initscript and it's purpose as well as few things else so networkd is
>> the future and shipping multiple networking solution for
>> embedded/servers/cloud/containers makes no sense.
>>
>> I would not be surprised that networkd will be ready enough for
>> replacement in F22
>
> Maybe you should go and check what NM can do today before writing it off
> or before thinking systemd-networkd will be mature in the short term
nobody said replace NM everywhere
* replace network.service is the topic
* nobody i know is using NM on servers
Hello my name is Simo.
Now you know someone who does :)
* they all continue to use LSB network.service for good reasons
you do not need a complex software like NM on a server with one
or two static configured ethernet cards and nothing else
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go away with all that dependencies on my servers
Installing:
NetworkManager
Installing for dependencies:
ModemManager-glib
NetworkManager-glib
avahi-autoipd
libndp
libnl3
ppp
wpa_supplicant
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go away with all the dependencies on my full featured workstation
running BIND as nameserver, hostapd with 2 instances and a own
DHCP server for both, OpenVPN, httpd, dbmail, MariaDB and what not
all or network services, firewalls and routings
Installing:
NetworkManager
Installing for dependencies:
ModemManager-glib
avahi-autoipd
dnsmasq
libndp
ppp
wpa_supplicant
We can look into whether these dependencies are excessive or not,
orwhether they can be made conditional instead of hard, for the people
that want minimal installs.
I do not think this is necessarily a bit problem.
Simo.
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Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York