Hi,
I'm using F30 with KDE Plasma. I also use the nvidia proprietary drivers from rpmfusion so that my children can play minecraft with high enough fps.
One thing they complain about is a strange behavior of the mouse when they play minecraft. I mean that the mouse sometimes (very often) moves suddenly in unpredictable direction. Has anyone experienced such issue? I also discovered that there are mouse lags a lot if 2 sessions are open at the same time with switch user (that was true with F29, I did not try since I upgraded to F30 few days ago). I have no clue if this is related.
Kind regards,
F
After what I went through on my upgrade to F30, I suggest you look at memory available.
All that video needs buffers. If you are short, the mouse could suffer from whatever it needs.
Free is easy to run.
On 8/3/19 2:10 PM, Frédéric wrote:
Hi,
I'm using F30 with KDE Plasma. I also use the nvidia proprietary drivers from rpmfusion so that my children can play minecraft with high enough fps.
One thing they complain about is a strange behavior of the mouse when they play minecraft. I mean that the mouse sometimes (very often) moves suddenly in unpredictable direction. Has anyone experienced such issue? I also discovered that there are mouse lags a lot if 2 sessions are open at the same time with switch user (that was true with F29, I did not try since I upgraded to F30 few days ago). I have no clue if this is related.
Kind regards,
F _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 19:28 +0200, Frédéric wrote:
it seems simpler than that. We tested another mouse and it worked much better. So it's probably the wire that has false contact.
Mice do wear out. The cable, the connections, are subject to metal fatigue. Fluff getting into optical sensors can make them erratic. Buttons wear out, the soldering around the buttons goes bad.
I've had several PS/2 mice, and I think a couple of USB ones, where the computer didn't seem to supply enough power to drive them, or was giving them electrical noise, and they'd frequently go whizzing all over the screen madly clicking on things. On a long cable, or plugged into front panel sockets they'd do this very often. But plugged straight into the motherboard socket they were usually fine.
I have at least one mouse that rapidly goes into a power save mode, and is repeatedly logged as disconnecting when you leave it idle.
On 08/04/2019 07:27 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 19:28 +0200, Frédéric wrote:
it seems simpler than that. We tested another mouse and it worked much better. So it's probably the wire that has false contact.
Mice do wear out. The cable, the connections, are subject to metal fatigue. Fluff getting into optical sensors can make them erratic. Buttons wear out, the soldering around the buttons goes bad.
I've had several PS/2 mice, and I think a couple of USB ones, where the computer didn't seem to supply enough power to drive them, or was giving them electrical noise, and they'd frequently go whizzing all over the screen madly clicking on things. On a long cable, or plugged into front panel sockets they'd do this very often. But plugged straight into the motherboard socket they were usually fine.
I have at least one mouse that rapidly goes into a power save mode, and is repeatedly logged as disconnecting when you leave it idle.
I have been using a Kensington trackball for years, and except for wiping off the ball and wiping up the inside of the base every once in a while, it is very reliable, and of course, it takes up no extra desk space, since it doesn't have to be moved around. You should try one! (I have the cheapie, with only two buttons and no scroll--you don't need a scroll wheel with a trackball. About $25, if I remember.) Three computers, three trackballs.
--doug
On 8/5/19 12:18 AM, Frédéric wrote:
I have been using a Kensington trackball for years
Interesting, first time I hear about that. How do you replace the middle button and the wheel? I am used to zoom in/out with control wheel for example.
I was in an auto accident end of last Oct. 8 weeks in a sling with my right arm. No mousing around (right-handed) for me and forget about the effort to roll the wheel.
The people here pointed me to the Kensington Expert Mouse. Insurance paid top dollar for it, compared to what I could have gotten it on line (get me the mouse or pay workmen's comp, an easy calculation for the insurance company). I STILL use it left-handed. It is just that easy to slide the left hand over and keep my stronger right hand on the keyboard and number pad. I told the OT at the rehab out-patient place I used and she has gotten a few of her patients to get one. It made a life-changing situation for one of her patients.
The wheel on the Kensington is fantastic. So easy to roll. I spend a lot of time in Geany with Internet Drafts XML (though I am being pushed to switch to Markdown, but Geany does not have and adequate plugin for Markdown). A mouse wheel to roll up and down the body of the document is critical. I could not have worked while in the sling and for the first 2 months of PT without that wheel.
I have not tried programming the top two buttons. Some here said it can be done in Fedora.
So far, 8 months into ownership, I have not needed to clean the trackball, but it is easy to take out. In fact it falls out if you tip it over, so have it on a stable surface! I do not use its wrist rest. My mouse extender on my keyboard tray does not have the room and the position of the tray is such that I don't need the rest.
I really am thankful to the members here that pointed me to the Kensington Expert Mouse.
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:36:12 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So far, 8 months into ownership, I have not needed to clean the trackball, but it is easy to take out.
I've used these for years simply because I like them better, but after a long time (a few years at least) I see little crumbs of the hard rubber-like material the wheel is made of accumulating in the ball socket. I have to take the ball out and bang the mouse on the table to get the pile of rubber crumbs out till the next time.
I already bought a replacement to use if this one stops working completely. I can't complain about how long it took for something to start falling apart though, it has lasted a long time.
On 8/5/19 10:10 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:36:12 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So far, 8 months into ownership, I have not needed to clean the trackball, but it is easy to take out.
I've used these for years simply because I like them better, but after a long time (a few years at least) I see little crumbs of the hard rubber-like material the wheel is made of accumulating in the ball socket. I have to take the ball out and bang the mouse on the table to get the pile of rubber crumbs out till the next time.
I've been using the Kingston Expert Mouse Wireless Trackball for more than 2 years now. The only thing I have to clean out is the cat fur that accumulates in the "ball well". I clean it out as a matter of course and not because it has caused me any performance issues.
I can't see how any rubber could wear from the scroll ring.
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 23:23:46 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote:
I can't see how any rubber could wear from the scroll ring.
I can't figure out how it happens either, but it comes from someplace and sure looks like the stuff the ring is made of. Possibly I just have ground rubber pixies that show up at night and add rubber to the mouse :-).
On 08/05/2019 10:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:36:12 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So far, 8 months into ownership, I have not needed to clean the trackball, but it is easy to take out.
I've used these for years simply because I like them better, but after a long time (a few years at least) I see little crumbs of the hard rubber-like material the wheel is made of accumulating in the ball socket. I have to take the ball out and bang the mouse on the table to get the pile of rubber crumbs out till the next time.
The Kensington trackball does not have a rubber ball--it seems to be some kind of hard plastic, and as I mentioned, these that I have have been in use for years. But I suppose skin particles get on the ball after a while, so you do have to clean them once in a while. The ball just comes right out, so don't lose it!
To answer a different question raised in this thread--I don't have any way to zoom with the trackball, but scrolling is easy enough. There is a sort of zoom app called KMag, for KDE systems, but I don't find it very helpful.
--doug
I already bought a replacement to use if this one stops working completely. I can't complain about how long it took for something to start falling apart though, it has lasted a long time. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Mice do wear out. The cable, the connections, are subject to metal fatigue. Fluff getting into optical sensors can make them erratic. Buttons wear out, the soldering around the buttons goes bad.
Yes and this one is the cheapest Logitech so less than 10 €. It is probably as old as the PC (6 years) so I think I can buy a new one! Thanks, F
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