external USB drives

[Paolo Galtieri]

Folks,
  I recently purchased a 4TB external USB drive.  I have purchased USB 
drives in the past and have run dosfslabel to set the drive label.  When 
I tried this on F29 I get the following:

dosfslabel /dev/sdc2 NEW_LABEL

Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.

I have 2 8TB drives which I labeled some time ago without a problem, but 
now I get the same error when I try to print out the drive label

dosfslabel /dev/sdd2

Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.

The new drive shows up on the desktop as:

"Seagate Expansion Drive"

I tried the same thing on F30 with the same result.

Can someone tell me what's going on?

Paolo

[ToddAndMargo]

On 7/3/19 1:50 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> Folks,
>   I recently purchased a 4TB external USB drive.  I have purchased USB 
> drives in the past and have run dosfslabel to set the drive label.  When 
> I tried this on F29 I get the following:
>
> dosfslabel /dev/sdc2 NEW_LABEL
>
> Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
>
> I have 2 8TB drives which I labeled some time ago without a problem, but 
> now I get the same error when I try to print out the drive label
>
> dosfslabel /dev/sdd2
>
> Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
>
> The new drive shows up on the desktop as:
>
> "Seagate Expansion Drive"
>
> I tried the same thing on F30 with the same result.
>
> Can someone tell me what's going on?
>
> Paolo

Hi Paolo,

It is probably formatted in NTFS.

The best way I have found for setting drive labes is
gparted

# dnf install gparted

It is a graphical interface4 and gives you tons of information.
First thing I would do it check to see if it is NTFS.

The label is under the "partition" drop down.

And you can always wipe and create whatever partition type
you want.

HTH,
-T

[Paolo Galtieri]

I managed to figure that out after I sent the email.  What confused me 
was that for 1 and 2 TB drives fdisk -l says the drives are:

Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdc1  *     2048 3907029166 3907027119  1.8T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

for 4 and 8 TB drives dfisk -l shows

Device      Start         End     Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sdd1      34      262177      262144  128M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sdd2  264192 15628052479 15627788288  7.3T Microsoft basic data

so I assumed (incorrectly) FAT.  It was only afterwards that I thought NTFS.

Oh well, live and learn :-)

Paolo

On 7/3/19 3:42 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 7/3/19 1:50 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > Folks,
> >   I recently purchased a 4TB external USB drive.  I have purchased 
> > USB drives in the past and have run dosfslabel to set the drive 
> > label.  When I tried this on F29 I get the following:
> >
> > dosfslabel /dev/sdc2 NEW_LABEL
> >
> > Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
> >
> > I have 2 8TB drives which I labeled some time ago without a problem, 
> > but now I get the same error when I try to print out the drive label
> >
> > dosfslabel /dev/sdd2
> >
> > Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
> >
> > The new drive shows up on the desktop as:
> >
> > "Seagate Expansion Drive"
> >
> > I tried the same thing on F30 with the same result.
> >
> > Can someone tell me what's going on?
> >
> > Paolo
>
> Hi Paolo,
>
> It is probably formatted in NTFS.
>
> The best way I have found for setting drive labes is
> gparted
>
> # dnf install gparted
>
> It is a graphical interface4 and gives you tons of information.
> First thing I would do it check to see if it is NTFS.
>
> The label is under the "partition" drop down.
>
> And you can always wipe and create whatever partition type
> you want.
>
> HTH,
> -T
>
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[ToddAndMargo]

On 7/3/19 6:25 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> I managed to figure that out after I sent the email.  What confused me 
> was that for 1 and 2 TB drives fdisk -l says the drives are:
>
> Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
> /dev/sdc1  *     2048 3907029166 3907027119  1.8T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
>
> for 4 and 8 TB drives dfisk -l shows
>
> Device      Start         End     Sectors  Size Type
> /dev/sdd1      34      262177      262144  128M Microsoft reserved
> /dev/sdd2  264192 15628052479 15627788288  7.3T Microsoft basic data
>
> so I assumed (incorrectly) FAT.  It was only afterwards that I thought 
> NTFS.
>
> Oh well, live and learn :-)
>
> Paolo

Hi Paolo,

If you have not started using the drive yet and your are not
going to share it with Windows or Mac, you can wipe the
drive (gparted --> device -> create partition table) and
set it to GPT (XP can't read GPT.) and ext4.  You will
love the results.

-T

[Samuel Sieb]

On 7/3/19 6:25 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> I managed to figure that out after I sent the email.  What confused me 
> was that for 1 and 2 TB drives fdisk -l says the drives are:
>
> Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
> /dev/sdc1  *     2048 3907029166 3907027119  1.8T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
>
> for 4 and 8 TB drives dfisk -l shows
>
> Device      Start         End     Sectors  Size Type
> /dev/sdd1      34      262177      262144  128M Microsoft reserved
> /dev/sdd2  264192 15628052479 15627788288  7.3T Microsoft basic data
>
> so I assumed (incorrectly) FAT.  It was only afterwards that I thought 
> NTFS.

The reason that it looks different is because drives over 3TB have to 
use a GPT partition table.

[Tim]

On Wed, 2019-07-03 at 18:25 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
> /dev/sdc1  *     2048 3907029166 3907027119  1.8T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Don't forget that when you use partitioning tools to look at a drive,
they look at the flags on the partitions for the types of partition. 
The filesystem that's actually used on the drive can be different.

I can carve up a drive saying that a partition is MSDOS.  But when I
format that partition, I could format it as EXT3.  MSDOS would be
offered as the default choice by any interactive tool, but I could
override that.  And command line tools will do what I tell them to,
right from the get go.

Afterwards, the filesystem would be whatever I picked.  But the
partition header would still say whatever it was previously.

[wwp]

Hello,

On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:42:31 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users  wrote:
> On 7/3/19 1:50 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > Folks,
> >   I recently purchased a 4TB external USB drive.  I have purchased USB > drives in the past and have run dosfslabel to set the drive label.  When > I tried this on F29 I get the following:
> >
> > dosfslabel /dev/sdc2 NEW_LABEL
> >
> > Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
> >
> > I have 2 8TB drives which I labeled some time ago without a problem, but > now I get the same error when I try to print out the drive label
> >
> > dosfslabel /dev/sdd2
> >
> > Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
> >
> > The new drive shows up on the desktop as:
> >
> > "Seagate Expansion Drive"
> >
> > I tried the same thing on F30 with the same result.
> >
> > Can someone tell me what's going on?
> >
> > Paolo
>
> Hi Paolo,
>
> It is probably formatted in NTFS.

For the sake of the archives, I've just bought several ones too (the
5TB model), they are seen by gparted as exFat. Reformatted to ext4,
tune2fs'ed and put in production.

Regards,

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 7/4/19 4:33 AM, wwp wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:42:31 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users  wrote:
> > On 7/3/19 1:50 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > >    I recently purchased a 4TB external USB drive.  I have purchased USB > drives in the past and have run dosfslabel to set the drive label.  When > I tried this on F29 I get the following:
> > >
> > > dosfslabel /dev/sdc2 NEW_LABEL
> > >
> > > Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
> > >
> > > I have 2 8TB drives which I labeled some time ago without a problem, but > now I get the same error when I try to print out the drive label
> > >
> > > dosfslabel /dev/sdd2
> > >
> > > Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
> > >
> > > The new drive shows up on the desktop as:
> > >
> > > "Seagate Expansion Drive"
> > >
> > > I tried the same thing on F30 with the same result.
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me what's going on?
> > >
> > > Paolo
> >
> > Hi Paolo,
> >
> > It is probably formatted in NTFS.
>
> For the sake of the archives, I've just bought several ones too (the
> 5TB model), they are seen by gparted as exFat. Reformatted to ext4,
> tune2fs'ed and put in production.

gparted is our friend.

!

[Samuel Sieb]

On 7/3/19 1:50 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> I recently purchased a 4TB external USB drive.  I have purchased USB 
> drives in the past and have run dosfslabel to set the drive label.  When 
> I tried this on F29 I get the following:
>
> dosfslabel /dev/sdc2 NEW_LABEL
>
> Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.
>
> Can someone tell me what's going on?

What does "lsblk -f /dev/sdc" show?  Change sdc to whatever drive you 
want to check.