I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware. 1. Even though the shutdown command shutdown the hardware in FCn n<6 and today in Ubuntu, it refuses to shut down in FC6. That is all the commands you would expect are executed in shutdown, I can hear the tel tale click but the computer power is not shut off. acpi on or off makes no difference.
2. It took me 2 weeks to get sound working but it was not easy. In the boot messages the sound card was recognized but upon booting lspci, lshal, hwconf and the /proc/asound showed no trace of a sound card. Needless to say the lines related to the sound card in /etc/modprobe.conf were ignored and no /dev/audio was not created. The only way I could get sound to work was to do an explicit modprobe in the rc.local file and a lot of fooling around with system-config-soundcard, alsamixer and volume control. Needless to say sound worked with FCn n<6.
Now I would be glad to hear an explanation for all this but it seems clear that FC6 does not work on my hardware for these two features. A bugzilla did no good.
I am not optimistic that future Fedoras will improve. -- ======================================================================= "The porcupine with the sharpest quills gets stuck on a tree more often." ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:55:09 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
- Even though the shutdown command shutdown the hardware in FCn n<6 and
today in Ubuntu, it refuses to shut down in FC6. That is all the commands you would expect are executed in shutdown, I can hear the tel tale click but the computer power is not shut off. acpi on or off makes no difference.
poweroff
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 04:53 +0000, Amadeus W. M. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:55:09 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
- Even though the shutdown command shutdown the hardware in FCn n<6 and
today in Ubuntu, it refuses to shut down in FC6. That is all the commands you would expect are executed in shutdown, I can hear the tel tale click but the computer power is not shut off. acpi on or off makes no difference.
poweroff
poweroff still does not shut off the power to the machine.
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:10:31 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 04:53 +0000, Amadeus W. M. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:55:09 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
- Even though the shutdown command shutdown the hardware in FCn n<6 and
today in Ubuntu, it refuses to shut down in FC6. That is all the commands you would expect are executed in shutdown, I can hear the tel tale click but the computer power is not shut off. acpi on or off makes no difference.
poweroff
poweroff still does not shut off the power to the machine.
I have the same problem on an old (1998) pentium2; I have to walk around behind the machine, hold the poweroff, and pull the power cord out for a few seconds; if I put it back too soon, the machine reboots.
FC6 does not do this on any of three other machines, nor does FC6.ppc on an old (2002) G3 iBook.
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 17:50 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:10:31 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 04:53 +0000, Amadeus W. M. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:55:09 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
- Even though the shutdown command shutdown the hardware in FCn n<6 and
today in Ubuntu, it refuses to shut down in FC6. That is all the commands you would expect are executed in shutdown, I can hear the tel tale click but the computer power is not shut off. acpi on or off makes no difference.
poweroff
poweroff still does not shut off the power to the machine.
I have the same problem on an old (1998) pentium2; I have to walk around behind the machine, hold the poweroff, and pull the power cord out for a few seconds; if I put it back too soon, the machine reboots.
FC6 does not do this on any of three other machines, nor does FC6.ppc on an old (2002) G3 iBook.
All I have to do is hit the power button and the machine goes off. I know of no other version that has this problem on this machine other than FC6. I have used several on it and the poweroff works. I am still waiting for someone to explain this obvious bug in FC6 on older hardware, or at least this old hardware. -- ======================================================================= Truth has always been found to promote the best interests of mankind... - Percy Bysshe Shelley ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 15:55 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
IRQ conflicts has to be it. I just installed FC5 to an older PIII and my ethernet card isn't found, although it worked fine with FC4. I'm trying to remember the isapnp rpm name. I'm not seeing plug and play behavior no IRQ's higher than 16. If anyone remembers I could use the hint! Ric
Aaron Konstam:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
Ric Moore:
IRQ conflicts has to be it. I just installed FC5 to an older PIII and my ethernet card isn't found, although it worked fine with FC4
Can also be ACPI (seems to be full of bugs - ACPI, and its implementation, no idea about how good Linux software is to make use of it).
I've been going through this crap the last couple of days, trying out different versions of Fedora on the same hardware, each requiring different ACPI BIOS settings before it'd boot, find different bits of hardware, etc.
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 03:45 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 15:55 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
IRQ conflicts has to be it. I just installed FC5 to an older PIII and my ethernet card isn't found, although it worked fine with FC4. I'm trying to remember the isapnp rpm name. I'm not seeing plug and play behavior no IRQ's higher than 16. If anyone remembers I could use the hint! Ric
Why exactly should the irq assignment be different in FC6 then it is in FC5, FC4, Ubuntu, etc.? -- ======================================================================= "Yes, and I feel bad about rendering their useless carci into dogfood..." -- Badger comics ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 03:45 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 15:55 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I have had two problems from the first with FC6 on admittedly old Dell (circa 2000) hardware.
IRQ conflicts has to be it. I just installed FC5 to an older PIII and my ethernet card isn't found, although it worked fine with FC4. I'm trying to remember the isapnp rpm name. I'm not seeing plug and play behavior no IRQ's higher than 16. If anyone remembers I could use the hint! Ric
One more thing. When I look at /proc/interrupts I see no conflict. Also it has been about a decade since the PCI standard allows two devices to have the same IRQ but a different base address and Linux handled this configuration.
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