Does this still exist? I was looking through some old email (2008/2009), and I see it was still appearing then, although it seemed to be getting more and more bureacratic, with reports from committees whose pontifications were generally unintelligible to me.
Earlier on, IIRC, this newsletter used to contain interesting and useful (and intelligible) articles on features of Fedora, eg user-friendly articles on WiFi, PXEboot, etc. (I seem to remember articles on KDE, maybe by Anne Wilson, which opened my eyes to facilities available in KDE.)
Is there anything similar now?
--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabregas@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabregas@gmail.com Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News? To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 7:53 AM On 02/26/2011 11:34 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Does this still exist?
Yes; the messages are sent to announce@lists.fedoraproject.org ...so make sure you're subscribed there.
-- Jorge --
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue264
I always check the links provided by Distrowatch.com. Scrolling to the bottom on the left hand side of the page[Latest Newsletters] you will likely find it. I am not subscribed to the list and I am able to find them :)
Jorge, please don't take it in the wrong way. There are more ways to get the FWN other than subscribing to the list.
Regards,
Antonio
BTW: Is there a RSS feed of the FWN? I looked for it but I didn't found any.
Regards
Antonio Olivares wrote:
Thanks for that. But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the start. It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent Fedora developments. There is nothing wrong with having that. But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me, FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of do-it-yourself way some of the features or applications available under Fedora, eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading - and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need I wondered if there is any alternative online? Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE online magazine.
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
From: Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News? To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 6:32 AM Antonio Olivares wrote:
Thanks for that. But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the start. It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent Fedora developments. There is nothing wrong with having that. But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me, FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of do-it-yourself way some of the features or applications available under Fedora, eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading
and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need I wondered if there is any alternative online? Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE online magazine.
--
You are correct in your statements. There used to be some howto's other kinds of things that were Fedora specific. My best guess is that this is now transferred over to the main Fedora webpage and some pages their in :
http://fedoraproject.org/index.html
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/
Hope this helps :)
Antonio
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 06:49:07 -0800 (PST) Antonio Olivares olivares14031@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
From: Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News? To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 6:32 AM Antonio Olivares wrote:
Thanks for that. But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the start. It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent Fedora developments. There is nothing wrong with having that. But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me, FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of do-it-yourself way some of the features or applications available under Fedora, eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading
and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need I wondered if there is any alternative online? Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE online magazine.
--
You are correct in your statements. There used to be some howto's other kinds of things that were Fedora specific. My best guess is that this is now transferred over to the main Fedora webpage and some pages their in :
http://fedoraproject.org/index.html
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/
Hope this helps :)
Antonio
Perhaps the OP was thinking of the old Daily Package site: http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/ It appears that there has been no activity there since late 2008. -- cmg
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 06:49 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
From: Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News? To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 6:32 AM Antonio Olivares wrote:
Thanks for that. But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the start. It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent Fedora developments. There is nothing wrong with having that. But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me, FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of do-it-yourself way some of the features or applications available under Fedora, eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading
and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need I wondered if there is any alternative online? Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE online magazine.
--
You are correct in your statements. There used to be some howto's other kinds of things that were Fedora specific. My best guess is that this is now transferred over to the main Fedora webpage and some pages their in :
http://fedoraproject.org/index.html
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a totally mindless organization.
FWN was supposed to be for the end-users, not for simply registering arcane meeting minutes or warnings about actually saying anything useful. I'm quite sure that the people at these meetings are well aware of what has gone on in the meeting.
Can we change it? I vote for ripping it apart and going back to what it used to be. FAMSCO and dev-list acceptable-use mis-statements are not the kind of garbage that I want to see in it. While we're at it, things like world-wide FAMSCO event lists are unlikely to be of interest to non-Ambassadors, and they should move this stuff out of FWN into their own mailing list. I want to see events I can contribute to that are within a hundred kilometres of me, and what code I can fix or test to make a difference. And instead of recording minutes about a decision to include SQLninja without recording anything but a final decision, why don't we see an article about how to use the new tool? This stuff is guaranteed to disconnect the people to whom it was originally intended to connect to.
Just my opinion...
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 14:39 -0500, John Mellor wrote:
Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a totally mindless organization.
Thirded... I used to find something worth reading in it, but the last few editions have been completely boring.
On 02/27/2011 12:55 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 14:39 -0500, John Mellor wrote:
Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a totally mindless organization.
Thirded... I used to find something worth reading in it, but the last few editions have been completely boring.
Actually, this more of an opportunity than a point to lament. If there are people who could spend the time cycles needed to write interesting and informative articles about Fedora for FNW, then this is the chance to jump on it :)
Cheers,
JD
On 02/28/2011 01:09 AM, John Mellor wrote:
Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a totally mindless organization.
If you feel strongly about it, now is a great time to step up and help write some content on a weekly basis for other like minded users to enjoy or maybe criticize.
Rahul
Tim:
Thirded... I used to find something worth reading in it, but the last few editions have been completely boring.
JD:
Actually, this more of an opportunity than a point to lament. If there are people who could spend the time cycles needed to write interesting and informative articles about Fedora for FNW, then this is the chance to jump on it :)
I'm sure it is, but I'm voicing my comments from the viewpoint of a reader, rather than a contributor. What happened to it? Did the people previously submitting the interesting articles give up? Have they left the scene? Has someone deliberately decided to make it like is, rather than how it was?
On 02/28/2011 08:49 PM, Tim wrote
I'm sure it is, but I'm voicing my comments from the viewpoint of a reader, rather than a contributor. What happened to it? Did the people previously submitting the interesting articles give up? Have they left the scene? Has someone deliberately decided to make it like is, rather than how it was?
Some contributors got busy with other things and noone else has stepped up to fill in the same tasks. Unless someone else does, what you get is what people have volunteered to do. No explicit decision.
Rahul
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