When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)?
Jim Lewis
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000 "Jim Lewis" jim@jklewis.com wrote:
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)?
Jim Lewis
Wow.
I can confirm that it does throw me to getfedora.org almost instantly. I'm using Chromium on F20.
If you are looking to download a Fedora spin, this appears to work: https://spins.fedoraproject.org/
~ Ondra
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000 "Jim Lewis" jim@jklewis.com wrote:
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)?
Jim Lewis
Wow.
I can confirm that it does throw me to getfedora.org almost instantly. I'm using Chromium on F20.
If you are looking to download a Fedora spin, this appears to work: https://spins.fedoraproject.org/
~ Ondra
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before.
Jim Lewis 512-797-3049 http://jklewis.com <- my resume, Java games, and link to book are here. No ads!
On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote:
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before.
FWIW, the full (4.5GB) install DVD is no longer produced. The closest you could come would be to use the "net install" ...
You can get that from this page... https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/
It will then allow you to select your "Base Environment" and "Add-ons".
On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote:
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before.
FWIW, the full (4.5GB) install DVD is no longer produced. The closest you could come would be to use the "net install" ...
You can get that from this page... https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/
It will then allow you to select your "Base Environment" and "Add-ons".
My actual steps were this:
- Burn and install Fedora Workstation. Found it totally useless for me.
- Burn and install Fedora-Server. Same thing, not even a GUI.
- Burn and install Mate-Compiz. Not bad, at least close what I used to get with a full install.
- The Fedora-Server-inst ISO is mentioned (just like you have) so I find, burn, and begin to install it. I am very happy, I can choose Mate, and it looks like I am finally going to get a good install. I then get stopped by Bug 1130550, which looks like something to do with httrack which I think is in the Security package (not sure of my facts here). I investigate, and attempt to install again this time without as many Add-ons. The install goes a whole lot farther, but when I come back to check on it the laptop is dead, except for the Caps Lock light which is blinking about twice a second (never seen that before). I might assume that the Screensaver came on causing this issue, but why that is not disabled during an install just baffles me (along with a lot of these other decisions).
I had wiped out my Mate-Compiz install to try "inst" but since it seemed to work I went back to it. Have a lot of it configured (I can even scan, whooo hoooo!), but keep running into missing packages and features. I guess I took these things for granted with a full install.
Jim Lewis
It's a problem with the entire website. There's a bad line of code in the header:
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=https://getfedora.org">¬
which redirects everyone back to the main page. I've emailed the webmaster with details.
BTW, you can use wget to download the page and find the links you need from there. That's how I found the problem.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Jim Lewis jim@jklewis.com wrote:
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)?
Jim Lewis
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It's a problem with the entire website. There's a bad line of code in the header:
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=https://getfedora.org">¬
which redirects everyone back to the main page. I've emailed the webmaster with details.
BTW, you can use wget to download the page and find the links you need from there. That's how I found the problem.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Jim Lewis jim@jklewis.com wrote:
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)?
Jim Lewis
Hi Ted,
Yes, I had already used wget, that's why I said it looked intentional. I was mainly trying to find the Fedora 21 full install DVD, but I now understand that it is no longer provided.
Jim Lewis
On Dec 16, 2014 7:32 PM, "Jim Lewis" jim@jklewis.com wrote:
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before.
Jim Lewis
Out of curiosity, what are you considering "the default" here?
--Pete
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jim Lewis jim@jklewis.com wrote:
It's a problem with the entire website. There's a bad line of code in the header:
Yes, I had already used wget, that's why I said it looked intentional. I was mainly trying to find the Fedora 21 full install DVD, but I now understand that it is no longer provided.
I got feedback from one of the fedora web people that this is an intentional thing with the intent to discourage the use of fedoraproject.org in favor of getfedora.org as the primary website.
I think it could have been handled more gracefully.
On Dec 16, 2014 7:32 PM, "Jim Lewis" jim@jklewis.com wrote:
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before.
Jim Lewis
Out of curiosity, what are you considering "the default" here?
--Pete
Hi Pete,
Probably a poor choice of words on my part. "By default" to ME means not having to install gcc, Java, LibreOffice, wget, strace, etc., and fix things like Firefox associations (which I don't yet know how to do). The installs of Fedora 1 through 14 made sense (didn't use 15 and 16 because of Gnome 3). Versions 17-20 made sense as well. It's possible the Fedora-Server-inst ISO would have been what I wanted if it hadn't failed during the install.
I just had some good luck. Installed the RPM Fusion files and have xmms working with mp3 files. Now to see if Flash is going to work ...
Jim Lewis
On Dec 17, 2014 3:10 PM, "Jim Lewis" jim@jklewis.com wrote:
On Dec 16, 2014 7:32 PM, "Jim Lewis" jim@jklewis.com wrote:
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before.
Jim Lewis
Out of curiosity, what are you considering "the default" here?
--Pete
Hi Pete,
Probably a poor choice of words on my part. "By default" to ME means not having to install gcc, Java, LibreOffice, wget, strace, etc., and fix things like Firefox associations (which I don't yet know how to do). The installs of Fedora 1 through 14 made sense (didn't use 15 and 16 because of Gnome 3). Versions 17-20 made sense as well. It's possible the Fedora-Server-inst ISO would have been what I wanted if it hadn't failed during the install.
I just had some good luck. Installed the RPM Fusion files and have xmms working with mp3 files. Now to see if Flash is going to work ...
Jim Lewis
Okay, I thought it might be something like that :) There is of course no 'Jim' or 'Pete' package set on any install media, but I'll share a trick: use the `show-installed` utility. It can create a list of packages for you to feed to yum after install, or create a kickstart format for use during install.
--Pete
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