f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting.
I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once).
thank you for any help.
To suspend try "systemctl suspend"
Maybe this can help:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/
HTH, Mihai
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting.
I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once).
thank you for any help.
On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
To suspend try "systemctl suspend"
Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"? Doesn't "systemctl" have to be run as root?
Maybe this can help:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/
Hmmm. What proprietary driver? I do not think I have the radeon video. journalctl|grep suspend gets these for today:
Jan 18 19:36:10 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1189]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:46:07 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1170]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1189.579 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.302 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 44.326 msecs
The first two were attemptings to suspend by closing the notebook. I had detacted the external monitor prior, but I had not tried the <fn+f7> to cycle off the external monitor. Never had to do that with f17.
The last 4 were from the pm-suspend.
HTH, Mihai
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting.
I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once).
thank you for any help.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
To suspend try "systemctl suspend"
Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"?
Certainly so, although it may not cure your problem.
Doesn't "systemctl" have to be run as root?
Not on my F20.
Maybe this can help:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/Hmmm. What proprietary driver? I do not think I have the radeon video.
OK. But to hope to make some progress you may need to find out (and post) more info about your HW than just "Lenovo laptop".
journalctl|grep suspend gets these for today:
Jan 18 19:36:10 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1189]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:46:07 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1170]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1189.579 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.302 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 44.326 msecs
The first two were attemptings to suspend by closing the notebook. I had detacted the external monitor prior, but I had not tried the <fn+f7> to cycle off the external monitor. Never had to do that with f17.
The last 4 were from the pm-suspend.
HTH, Mihai
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting.
I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once).
thank you for any help.
On 01/19/2014 10:35 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
To suspend try "systemctl suspend"
Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"?
Certainly so, although it may not cure your problem.
Doesn't "systemctl" have to be run as root?
Not on my F20.
Maybe this can help:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/Hmmm. What proprietary driver? I do not think I have the radeon video.
OK. But to hope to make some progress you may need to find out (and post) more info about your HW than just "Lenovo laptop".
Lenovo x120e.
So this morning, before heading to the airport (in the Delta lounge @ DTW), I disconnected from the KVM, the used <Fn+F7> to turn off the external monitor explicitly. Unpluged from AC and closed the notebook. It properly went into suspend mode whew. However, on resuming here at the airport, gnome crashed and sent in a bug report. Of course, I was not connected to the wifi here yet, but I am assuming that the system just tried again until it was able to send the report.
This constant gnome crashing is a pain. Fortunately with static workspaces, the windows stay in the workspace assigned, but the order in the <alt-tab> chooser changes. The latest set of message found with "journalctl |grep suspend"
Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1339.057 msecs Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.409 msecs Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 45.967 msecs Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: [<ffffffff8135c571>] fb_set_suspend+0x31/0x60 Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: [<ffffffffa00b24a9>] radeon_fbdev_set_suspend+0x19/0x20 [radeon]
So perhaps I do have a radeon video, how do I check?
I will be going suspending and resuming a number of times yet today. So chances to see this over and over again.
journalctl|grep suspend gets these for today:
Jan 18 19:36:10 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1189]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:46:07 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1170]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1189.579 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.302 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 44.326 msecs
The first two were attemptings to suspend by closing the notebook. I had detacted the external monitor prior, but I had not tried the <fn+f7> to cycle off the external monitor. Never had to do that with f17.
The last 4 were from the pm-suspend.
HTH, Mihai
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting.
I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once).
thank you for any help.
On 01/19/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/19/2014 10:35 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
To suspend try "systemctl suspend"
Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"?
Certainly so, although it may not cure your problem.
Doesn't "systemctl" have to be run as root?
Not on my F20.
Maybe this can help:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/
Hmmm. What proprietary driver? I do not think I have the radeon video.
OK. But to hope to make some progress you may need to find out (and post) more info about your HW than just "Lenovo laptop".
Lenovo x120e.
So this morning, before heading to the airport (in the Delta lounge @ DTW), I disconnected from the KVM, the used <Fn+F7> to turn off the external monitor explicitly. Unpluged from AC and closed the notebook. It properly went into suspend mode whew. However, on resuming here at the airport, gnome crashed and sent in a bug report. Of course, I was not connected to the wifi here yet, but I am assuming that the system just tried again until it was able to send the report.
Well this time (2nd resume after switching off external monitor), it came up without any gnome problems. Pretty much a clean resume. Something is wrong wrt radeon and external monitor.
This constant gnome crashing is a pain. Fortunately with static workspaces, the windows stay in the workspace assigned, but the order in the <alt-tab> chooser changes. The latest set of message found with "journalctl |grep suspend"
Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1339.057 msecs Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.409 msecs Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 45.967 msecs Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: [<ffffffff8135c571>] fb_set_suspend+0x31/0x60 Jan 19 10:51:34 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: [<ffffffffa00b24a9>] radeon_fbdev_set_suspend+0x19/0x20 [radeon]
So perhaps I do have a radeon video, how do I check?
I will be going suspending and resuming a number of times yet today. So chances to see this over and over again.
journalctl|grep suspend gets these for today:
Jan 18 19:36:10 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1189]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:46:07 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1170]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1189.579 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.302 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 44.326 msecs
The first two were attemptings to suspend by closing the notebook. I had detacted the external monitor prior, but I had not tried the <fn+f7> to cycle off the external monitor. Never had to do that with f17.
The last 4 were from the pm-suspend.
HTH, Mihai
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting.
I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once).
thank you for any help.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:09:19AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Lenovo x120e.
So perhaps I do have a radeon video, how do I check?
Typically:
lspci | grep VGA
Some external sources:
«The ThinkPad X120e's Radeon HD 6310 integrated graphics...»
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-x120e.aspx http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Detail/Notebook/06112EU http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS013718 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X120e-Laptop-Review.56445.0.htm...
BTW, here are some Linux optimizations you may want to try:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X120e
Mihai
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 13:37 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Well this time (2nd resume after switching off external monitor), it came up without any gnome problems. Pretty much a clean resume. Something is wrong wrt radeon and external monitor.
I don't know if we are seeing the same issue or not, but I have observed that I can wind up in the situation where all the apps are in a single workspace after a resume. This happens if I was running dual displays before hibernate/suspend, but one of them is not available when I resume. In general you can run into problems if anything about the hardware (including connected peripherals) changes while you are suspended/hibernated.
In my case, I have a KVM switch for the VGA connection, and an HDMI connection also to the same monitor. The HDMI gives significantly better video, but of course only one of my connected computers can use that connection, the others are limited to VGA only. Sometimes I bring the HDMI-connected desktop back up, forgetting to put the KVM switch back to that computer (so that the computer only sees the HDMI display on resume). In that case I end up with all the apps in a single workspace and the display settings messed up.
--Greg
On 01/20/2014 09:08 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 13:37 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Well this time (2nd resume after switching off external monitor), it came up without any gnome problems. Pretty much a clean resume. Something is wrong wrt radeon and external monitor.
I don't know if we are seeing the same issue or not, but I have observed that I can wind up in the situation where all the apps are in a single workspace after a resume. This happens if I was running dual displays before hibernate/suspend, but one of them is not available when I resume. In general you can run into problems if anything about the hardware (including connected peripherals) changes while you are suspended/hibernated.
Use the tweak tool to use static # of workspaces. I suspect then you will see that the apps stay in the workspace you have set them in. Gnome is restarting, I suspect, coming out of suspend and you loose your dynamic workspace setup. Same if you do a <alt-f2,r>.
Given that the meetings have started here, I think I have s/r half-a-dozen times today already. It is working. But of course no external video. Until I chair my session later this afternoon, and I have to be connected to the room projector.
In my case, I have a KVM switch for the VGA connection, and an HDMI connection also to the same monitor. The HDMI gives significantly better video, but of course only one of my connected computers can use that connection, the others are limited to VGA only. Sometimes I bring the HDMI-connected desktop back up, forgetting to put the KVM switch back to that computer (so that the computer only sees the HDMI display on resume). In that case I end up with all the apps in a single workspace and the display settings messed up.
--Greg
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
To show suspend, you have to hold down the ALT key when the dropdown is displayed.
That said, I've had pretty consistent problems with suspend as well on my Lenovo T530. It's hit or miss if, after a suspend, the system comes back or if instead it shows me the grey screen with the fedora logo that you see when booting. If the latter then I have to power off and reboot to get my desktop back.
On 01/20/2014 12:31 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64.
Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works.
Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome.
There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo.
To show suspend, you have to hold down the ALT key when the dropdown is displayed.
That said, I've had pretty consistent problems with suspend as well on my Lenovo T530. It's hit or miss if, after a suspend, the system comes back or if instead it shows me the grey screen with the fedora logo that you see when booting. If the latter then I have to power off and reboot to get my desktop back.
someone on the fedora test list suggested that if this happens to restart gnome: <alt-f2,r> even though you will not see the alt-f2 menu, it is there and r will restart it. The poster said he gets this in his testing at times and this is his recovery method.
On 01/20/2014 12:50 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/20/2014 12:31 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
To show suspend, you have to hold down the ALT key when the dropdown is displayed.
I don't use either Gnome nor suspend, but I am curious. Why is Gnome set to do this, and can it be configured to work in a more obvious fashion.
Becuase those responsible for developing gnome don't see suspend as a needed feature. Just power off. So an extension provides the hibernate/suspend function, and does it with a single button approach. I forgot about needing to hold down alt to get the button to do a suspend rather than hibernate. I really wish it worked the other way around, as IMHBO (my highly biased opinion), suspend is more valuable and used more frequently than hibernate.
latest failure.
On 01/19/2014 10:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/19/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/19/2014 10:35 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
To suspend try "systemctl suspend"
Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"?
Certainly so, although it may not cure your problem.
Doesn't "systemctl" have to be run as root?
Not on my F20.
Maybe this can help:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/
Hmmm. What proprietary driver? I do not think I have the radeon video.
OK. But to hope to make some progress you may need to find out (and post) more info about your HW than just "Lenovo laptop".
Lenovo x120e.
So this morning, before heading to the airport (in the Delta lounge @ DTW), I disconnected from the KVM, the used <Fn+F7> to turn off the external monitor explicitly. Unpluged from AC and closed the notebook. It properly went into suspend mode whew. However, on resuming here at the airport, gnome crashed and sent in a bug report. Of course, I was not connected to the wifi here yet, but I am assuming that the system just tried again until it was able to send the report.
Well this time (2nd resume after switching off external monitor), it came up without any gnome problems. Pretty much a clean resume. Something is wrong wrt radeon and external monitor.
Many successful suspend/resumes until noonish today (PST). Don't know what the system was doing; firefox was eating up 30% of one processor. But there are no journal entries for suspend at the time I closed the notebook. There IS a hibernate message:
Jan 21 12:20:26 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: Looking for hibernation image.
Why it tried hibernate, which is known not to work on Lenovo x120e, I can't tell. There was a kernel error reported when I repowered.
Every other time, closing the notebook resulted in suspend. Here is what it looked later after powering back up and then closing the notebook:
Jan 21 13:26:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 21 13:26:31 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1188.982 msecs Jan 21 13:26:31 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.460 msecs Jan 21 13:26:31 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 45.352 msecs
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