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OT - where to buy linux HW
by Kevin Kempter 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Hi List; Anyone know of any good retail or online outlets to but Linux desktops/servers. I would like to acquire another low cost dev box and I refuse to give the M$ chronies any of my money. Thanks for your advice...

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RE: How to take it out?
by Mike McGrath 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Horacio Ferrero > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:49 AM > To: For users of Fedora Core releases > Subject: How to take it out? > > How to take out to selinux so I cannot instal neither ntfs > nor the kernel. > > Thaks for your help > > Horacio > /etc/sysconfig/selinux -Mike

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Remote Desktops (VNC) - have some problems...
by Dan Thurman 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Using a remote desktop environment (VNC), I do get the GUI desktop to appear and for the most part it works well, but there are some issues listed below. I am currently using the GNOME environment. Issue #1: The desktop menus are not available for at least 15-45 seconds after desktop window appears ready to use. This was not a problem in FC1 through FC3 and is much slower in FC4. I am using the same hardware for FC1 through FC4. Issue #2: Some application will not appear (or pop up it's application window), especially where security credentials are required. Examples are: Services and Samba in Desktop->System Settings menu I tried to bring up the above applications both as a root user and as a regular user. The difference between root and a regular user is the non-root user is required to provide security credentials via security dialog when it appears. In both cases, no application window will appear for the application selected. There are no messages given as to why the application will not appear. At this point, I will need to go to the console directly or use the command line to do what I need to do. I just wanted to point this out so that perhaps these issues might be resolved. Kind regards, Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/155 - Release Date: 11/1/2005

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PPTP arp problem
by Rick Lim 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

I have an arp problem I am configuring PPTP (poptop) (I know its not supposed to be secure enough but my friend wants to use it) I have a firewall Vpn client -eth0- (vpn) -firewall- eth1--> local lan 192.168.0 \- wlan0 --> wireless local lan 192.168.1 The problem is when the vpn is establish and the wlan0 is up and running the Arp table shows the wlan0 interface for the vpn and I cannot ping thru on the vpn. When I shut off the wlan0 the arp table is correct and I can ping from the client to the local lan. Has anyone run into this problem with a fix????

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Fedora Triaging and QA
by Rahul Sundaram 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Hi For those who have been wanting to improve the quality of releases, get effective dialogue and responses in bugzilla and work on reducing the chances for regressions in Fedora updates, here is a good opportunity to get involved. http://www.livejournal.com/users/gregdek/2714.html. Contact gregdek AT redhat.com There are some low hanging fruits that the community can potentially tackle in a better way. Every new update is first pushed into updates-testing repository to enable the community to test and check for regressions and provide feedback in the fedora-test list and the relevant bugzilla reports. The amount of feedback at times have been very low and thats usually ok for the large majority of updates but some of the them are heavy impact ones like the Kernel or Xorg updates and do require community testing. Internal testing does not always reveal regressions in specific chipsets, architecture and hardware . If you have a spare test machine lying around that you could use and you would like to tinker and get involved in Fedora, updates-testing and the Fedora development tree are for you. General guidelines and instructions are available at : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide regards Rahul

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RE: Why Fedora ?
by Styma, Robert E (Robert) 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

> > > Why post messages on a support list about the usefulness of a product > that said list is designed to support? > > Do you honestly expect anyone to reply with "You know what? You're > right. Fedora is of no use to me and I'm going to switch distros > because you don't care for it. Thank you very much."? > > What, precisely, are you trying to accomplish? > > Curious, > David-Paul Niner I have observed that this mailing list is populated by a lot of very intellegent and informed individuals. Since geography precludes us getting together for coffee on a regular basis, I believe these discussions do have merit. Many of the other discussion lists have a much smaller distribution and often the insights expressed here would be missed. I thank the people on this list for their time and energy. Robert E. Styma Principal Engineer (DMTS) Lucent Technologies, Phoenix

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Moving LVM PV to different IDE controller help
by MLists 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Recently needed to remove a failing drive from one of my servers. That drive was a physical volume (/dev/hdd) containing VG1, containing LV1. I installed a new drive (temporarily) on /dev/hdb created a new volume group VG2 containing a single logical volume LV1... formatted ext3 and transferred the data. Now that the failing drive has been removed from the server I want to move the new drive from /dev/hdb to /dev/hdd (ie. move th drive to the secondary IDE controller). My problem is that the system doesn't see the volume group if I just move the drive. What do I have to do to tell the system to look for VG2 on /dev/hdd instead of /dev/hdb? Thanks, >>>>> Mike <<<<<

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RE: Linux killer!
by Styma, Robert E (Robert) 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Tim: > Though there are cases, and this seems like one of them, where this is > next to impossible. Not because Linux can't do the task, but because > the server deliberately excludes clients. There's any number of > internet services which are deliberately designed to only work with > Windows, for no good reason. Not *just* because they can't figure out > how to support everyone, but sometimes because they want to be > deliberately obstructive. > .... > > I'm not so sure that Linux even wants to be a direct replacement for > Windows, just a viable alternative for those who want it. > For those who > want Windows, there is Windows. > A fair number of people would like to see Linux make inroads into the business desktop arena. As PC's became popular in the 1980's Windows had a leg up on the competitors like OS2 because of their popularity in the consumer market. Unix's were popular among those who were educated in technical fields because it was freely available to universities. Inroads made in the consumer market may help Linux in the business desktop. If nothing else, the lessons learned in this area will make Linux more polished. I agree with your statements about companies being deliberately obstructive. Microsoft has good reason to be obstructive. Also companies like Symantec, Network Associates (McAfee), and other companies who make their business working around flaws in Windows have good reason to see Linux not grow. Bob Styma

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RE: FC4 and Shadow Passwords
by Mike McGrath 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Vian > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:27 AM > To: For users of Fedora Core releases > Subject: Re: FC4 and Shadow Passwords > > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 08:21 +0000, Andy Green wrote: > > Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > I've got an FC4 install with shadow-utils installed but the > > > passwords are being stored in /etc/passwd and there is no > > > /etc/shadow file. Any ideas? > > > > Examine /etc/sysconfig/authconfig and check that there is a > line like this: > > > > USESHADOW=yes > > > > Also check perms on that file are root:root and 644. > > > shadow must have perms 400 and passwd needs perms of 644. > > If the passwords are in the passwd file it will need to be > converted by using pwconv to create the proper entries in the > shadow file. See man pwconv for details on operation. > > A question I have is how the system got that way? The > default config for Fedora is to use shadow passwords. > Something must have been changed to tell it not to use shadow. > > > -Andy I'm curious about that myself, I have other machines very similar to this that I created with the same kickstart script. I've installed some other RPM's on this I wonder if one of them some how moved everything back to passwd? WEIRD. Anyway, thanks guys! -Mike

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Hitchhiker's Guide to the linux administration
by Franck Y 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Hello Everyone ! I am currently doing a part job for keeping working a linux server. In fact ait's more likely a file sharing server. My question is this one ! Which proogram you recommend me for monitoring this server! Example`:monitoring a disk failure or an forbiden acess to the server. Thank you -- Franck

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