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F8 DVD Issues
by Dave Cross 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

The F8 installation DVD doesn't work in my laptop. It boots up and displays the initial screen of text ("Press enter to begin installation", etc) but the keyboard doesn't respond. No keys work at all. This is exactly the same problem that I had with the F7 installation DVD. In both cases I ended up doing a "yum upgrade" so now I have an FC6 system that has had two levels of upgrades. I'd really like to do a complete fresh installation at some point. If it helps, the laptop is a Philips Freevents X51 (which is actually a rebadged Twinhead 12D). Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Dave..

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an alternative to gnumeric/open-office?
by Globe Trotter 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Hi, Can someone please suggest to me an alternative to gnumeric/openoffice that does not involve installing Gnome or KDE in F8? Many thanks, Trotter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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pdftk f8
by Frank Cox 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Does anyone know why pdftk seems to have disappeared from the Fedora 8 repositories? It's present and accounted for in Fedora 7. I downloaded the F7 rpm and installed it on this F8 system and it seems to be working fine. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com

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F8 Loudspeaker icon missing
by Antonio M 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

I don't have the loudpeaker icon on my my bar (it should be close to clock...). How do I restore it (I had sometime ago) Tnx -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag

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stupid bash tricks (how to loop on the command line)
by Will Yonker 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Okay, I saw a neat trick at work the other day. A coworker somehow got the shell to do looping without creating a file. I believe he was using csh to do so and I was wondering if I could do the same thing in bash. Basically I would like to be able to do a while loop to execute a df command. Any ideas? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Serious problem with performance in sendmail-8.14.1
by Mailing List Receiver 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

100 Outgoing emails, avg. size 2k sendmail-8.13.8-2: 2 min., 10 sec. sendmail-8.14.1-4.2: 1 hour, 20 min. Fedora Core 6, properly configured DNS mx record lookup takes 0.015 to 0.030 sec. on both No throttling by ISP, 4-T1 pipe. Problem appeared after the last sendmail update. Todd Merriman

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f7/f8 and dpms
by François Patte 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I recently installed f7 on a desktop with ATI (Radeon X1300/X1550 Series) video card and f8 on a laptop with nvidia video card (GeForce Go 6600). On both computer I run the driver fglrx (ATI) and nvidia from livna. On both computer dpms is enabled in xorg.conf On both computer the backlight never switches off... I wonder why. It use to switch off under fc4. Thanks for help. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 44 55 35 61 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Remi - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHN4TIdE6C2dhV2JURArx/AJ9QCmKZNAvSmNjbkmPPQ5EbXu9cbACdErzc OahCN5JFRHbprOvDZEdVqW4= =j2AM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fedora 8 Via Rhine II broken?
by David Betz 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

I was previously using Fedora 6. A fresh install of Fedora 8 x86_64 results in repeated network failures. Essentially, on first login, although /sbin/ifconfig shows eth0 to be up with the correct ip address, pinging a locally connected host (192.168.1.1) results in 'ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable' errors. Performing '/sbin/ifdown eth0 ; /sbin/ifup eth0; /sbin/ping 192.168.1.1' restores the network connection temporarily. However, browsing the web via firefox soon again leads to 'ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable' errors. If I don't browse the web, I do not receive 'ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable' errors for a long period of time (I did not wait beyond 8 minutes). If I browse, then the network quickly goes down again. This problem persists after reboot, and after bringing the network up with 'System -> Administration -> Network'. It persists after killing nm-applet. There are no new lines in /var/log/messages when the network fails. Comparing the periods of when the network interface is working to when it is not working, the outputs of /sbin/ifconfig is unchanged except for the transmitted/received packets, and the output of /sbin/route is unchanged. Installing Fedora 8 i386 initially results in a working network interface without the above problems, however, this problem has now developed on the i386 install, too. Below is smolt output after I have installed Fedora 8 i386. Thanks, -Dave Betz UUID: 33ea96b5-ada9-4480-a339-309807968811 OS: Fedora release 8 (Werewolf) Default run level: 5 Language: en_US.UTF-8 Platform: i686 BogoMIPS: 2001.36 CPU Vendor: AuthenticAMD CPU Model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ Number of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 2000 System Memory: 1009 System Swap: 2047 Vendor: Shuttle Inc System: SK22V10 Form factor: desktop Kernel: 2.6.23.1-42.fc8 SELinux Enabled: True SELinux Enforce: targeted Devices ================================= (None:None:None:None) input, Unknown, KEYBOARD, BTC USB Multimedia Keyboard (4358:12389:4121:258) pci, via-rhine, NETWORK, VT6102 [Rhine-II] (None:None:None:None) platform, Unknown, None, Platform Device (floppy.0) (4358:12548:4759:12416) pci, ehci_hcd, USB, USB 2.0 (None:None:None:None) scsi, sr, None, SCSI Device (None:None:None:None) scsi_host, Unknown, None, SCSI Host Adapter (None:None:None:None) scsi, sd, None, SCSI Device (None:None:None:None) scsi_generic, Unknown, None, SCSI Generic Interface (None:None:None:None) firewire, Unknown, None, No Description (None:None:None:None) scsi_generic, Unknown, None, SCSI Generic Interface (None:None:None:None) platform, Unknown, None, Platform Device (bluetooth) (None:None:None:None) serio, Unknown, None, i8042 AUX port (1118:35:None:None) usb, usbhid, OTHER, USB HID Interface (1134:21760:None:None) usb, usbhid, OTHER, USB HID Interface (1134:21760:None:None) usb, usbhid, OTHER, USB HID Interface (4358:1393:4759:12416) pci, pata_via, IDE, VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (None:None:None:None) pnp, parport_pc, None, Standard LPT printer port (4358:41528:0:0) pci, pcieport-driver, OTHER, K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller (4358:49720:0:0) pci, pcieport-driver, OTHER, K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller (None:None:None:None) platform, Unknown, None, Platform Device (vesafb.0) (None:None:None:None) input, Unknown, None, Microsoft Microsoft Trackball Optical? (4098:23408:4163:130) pci, Unknown, VIDEO, RV370 [Radeon X300SE] (None:None:None:None) platform, i8042, None, Platform Device (i8042) (None:None:None:None) platform, Unknown, None, Platform Device (pcspkr) (4358:12344:4759:12416) pci, uhci_hcd, USB, VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (4358:12344:4759:12416) pci, uhci_hcd, USB, VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (4358:12344:4759:12416) pci, uhci_hcd, USB, VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (4358:12617:4759:12416) pci, sata_via, IDE, VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (4358:29494:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8M890CE Host Bridge (4358:4918:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8M890CE Host Bridge (4098:23392:4163:131) pci, Unknown, VIDEO, RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] (4358:9014:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8M890CE Host Bridge (4358:12839:4759:12416) pci, Unknown, OTHER, VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South] (4130:4352:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration (4130:4353:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map (4130:4354:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller (4130:4355:0:0) pci, k8temp, OTHER, K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control (1356:564:None:None) usb, usb-storage, OTHER, USB Mass Storage Interface (None:None:None:None) net, Unknown, NETWORK, Networking Interface (4358:12356:4358:12356) pci, firewire_ohci, FIREWIRE, IEEE 1394 Host Controller (None:None:None:None) scsi_generic, Unknown, None, SCSI Generic Interface (4358:13110:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8M890CE Host Bridge (4358:45448:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800/K8T890 South] (4358:12344:4759:12416) pci, uhci_hcd, USB, VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (None:None:None:None) scsi, sd, None, SCSI Device (None:None:None:None) input, Unknown, MOUSE, Macintosh mouse button emulation (None:None:None:None) input, Unknown, KEYBOARD, BTC USB Multimedia Keyboard (None:None:None:None) pnp, serial, None, 16550A-compatible COM port (1356:565:None:None) usb, Unknown, OTHER, USB Vendor Specific Interface (None:None:None:None) input, Unknown, None, Power Button (CM) (None:None:None:None) input, Unknown, None, Power Button (FF) (None:None:None:None) scsi_host, Unknown, None, SCSI Host Adapter (1592:2602:None:None) usb, Unknown, OTHER, USB Interface (None:None:None:None) tty, Unknown, None, 16550A-compatible COM port (None:None:None:None) platform, serial8250, None, Platform Device (serial8250) (None:None:None:None) serio, Unknown, None, i8042 KBD port (4358:12377:4759:50656) pci, VIA 82xx Audio, AUDIO, VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (4358:21302:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8M890CE I/O APIC Interrupt Controller (4358:822:4759:12416) pci, agpgart-amd64, OTHER, K8M890CE Host Bridge (None:None:None:None) scsi_host, Unknown, None, SCSI Host Adapter (4358:17206:0:0) pci, Unknown, OTHER, K8M890CE Host Bridge

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Fedora 8 On Dell Latitude D420 Over USB
by Robert L Cochran 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

I succeeded in installing Fedora 8 to a Dell Latitude D420 laptop. I did the install to an external USB drive (in one of those 2.5" hard drive enclosures sold by CompUSA) and booted from that external drive. It works like a charm. I was extremely pleased to see kernel messages indicating wlan0 is being brought up. It failed of course because I don't broadcast my SSID and the connection is secure. I set it up manually. The network configuration wizard pretty stupidly sets the type to 'Master' for a wireless configuration. Changing it to 'Auto' and setting up the security stuff got the connection going. That's the good part -- my easiest wireless connection ever in Linux! Bob Cochran Greenbelt, Maryland, USA

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test
by Karl Larsen 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

This is a test. -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org.

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