bruce wrote:
two questions....
can you point to articles where a user as root was using an IRC client and got zombified??
and 2, are you guys saying that gnome in fedora 11/12 doesn't allow a user to log in as the root user?
thanks
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Richard Shaw:
The system-config* tools will prompt for root authentication if necessary
Tom Horsley:
Thousands and thousands of times in a row, in fact :-).
Not here. Once you've authenticated, that info is cached for a few minutes, and automatically renewed as you keep on doing things as root. And, if you are going to be idle for a while, you can manually extend the period without having to type in the password again (there's an icon in the task bar where you can renew/release it).
I'm still waiting for someone to point me to the web page documenting the actual case histories of horrible things that happened because a GUI app was running as root. (NOT the cases where people did stupid things in GUIs, I want the one that describes people doing perfectly normal safe operations who had horrible things go wrong simply because they were running a gui as root).
Yeah, well, the *usual* thing that cause problems is - the user stays logged in as root, does all their work as root, all *their* files are owned by root, so they have to keep on logging in as root to use their files. They paint themselves into a corner, then use that to justify why they "need" to be root.
If you want further ideas about what goes wrong, go back through the list and look at some of Gene's posts. He runs as root, and comes a cropper over it, often enough.
Traditionally IRC (as root) users have their problems, it's just making it easy for them to become a zombie.
-- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
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