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Today's Topics:
1. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Frank Cox)
2. Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf (Hiisi)
3. Re: Google Earth for x86_64? (Kevin J. Cummings)
4. Re: Google Earth for x86_64? (Max Pyziur)
5. Re: Google Earth for x86_64? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
6. Re: no send/receive in evolution (Patrick O'Callaghan)
7. Re: With Skype, no sound (Paul Smith)
8. Re: no send/receive in evolution (Matthew Saltzman)
9. Firefox on F9 with latest 64bit flash (Paolo Galtieri)
10. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Matthew Saltzman)
11. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Beartooth)
12. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Frank Cox)
13. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Peter Boy)
14. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Tom Horsley)
15. Re: no send/receive in evolution (Amadeus W.M.)
16. Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox? (Beartooth)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:02:47 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre(a)sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement,
=09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora. " <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:00:06 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the
number
here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
It's not Mozilla. It's the Fedora packaging.
Actually I don't mind the language extensions per se. What I do
mind is
the insanely tedious process of disabling them one by one, especially as
the disabled state is not persistent across FF versions.
It's not that tedious, only one command:
rm -fr /usr/lib/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
rm -fr /usr/lib64/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:04:12 +0400
From: Hiisi <very-cool(a)rambler.ru>
Subject: Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf
To: <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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Glad you got it sorted. Just before we leave this, and to make it
complete
for the archives, how about adding the command that gave you your
troubleshoot.txt?
Anne
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I really would like to see it. I have some kind of problem sharing USB
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instruction!
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:05:50 -0400
From: "Kevin J. Cummings" <cummings(a)kjchome.homeip.net>
Subject: Re: Google Earth for x86_64?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
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On 08/02/2009 03:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:19 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
> Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that
> doesn't freeze X?
It's not Google Earth, it's the blasted Intel driver. The current one
breaks when using OpenGL (the Mesa library). I've reported this, as have
other people, but had no reaction so far.
It also happens with the radeon driver as well....
Whether or not the drivers support or don't support 3D, it shouldn't
cause X to hang. It takes out both the mouse movement and the keyboard
with it. I can still see disk activity, so I can only assume that my
direct interface to the laptop is useless when this happens. It would
be nice if I could at least change to another VT and bag X....
Feel free to add your comments at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948
It's beyond a joke that this should be so completely broken. Some people
have had luck downgrading to the previous stable version ("yum downgrade
mesa\*") but YYMV of course.
poc
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:10:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Max Pyziur" <pyz(a)brama.com>
Subject: Re: Google Earth for x86_64?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
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On 08/02/2009 03:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:19 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
>> Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that
>> doesn't freeze X?
>
> It's not Google Earth, it's the blasted Intel driver. The current one
> breaks when using OpenGL (the Mesa library). I've reported this, as have
> other people, but had no reaction so far.
It also happens with the radeon driver as well....
Whether or not the drivers support or don't support 3D, it shouldn't
cause X to hang. It takes out both the mouse movement and the keyboard
with it. I can still see disk activity, so I can only assume that my
direct interface to the laptop is useless when this happens. It would
be nice if I could at least change to another VT and bag X....
Given the fact that it takes out the keyboard and the mouse and all
activity stops onscreen, I remotely ssh from another box to reboot the
machine.
fyi,
Max Pyziur
pyz(a)brama.com
> Feel free to add your comments at:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948
>
> It's beyond a joke that this should be so completely broken. Some people
> have had luck downgrading to the previous stable version ("yum downgrade
> mesa\*") but YYMV of course.
>
> poc
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:40:35 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Google Earth for x86_64?
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 16:05 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
On 08/02/2009 03:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:19 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
>> Any chance of there being a version of Google Earth for x86_64 that
>> doesn't freeze X?
>
> It's not Google Earth, it's the blasted Intel driver. The current one
> breaks when using OpenGL (the Mesa library). I've reported this, as have
> other people, but had no reaction so far.
It also happens with the radeon driver as well....
Interesting. Perhaps you could add that to the BZ page. The more
comments the better.
Whether or not the drivers support or don't support 3D, it
shouldn't
cause X to hang. It takes out both the mouse movement and the keyboard
with it. I can still see disk activity, so I can only assume that my
direct interface to the laptop is useless when this happens. It would
be nice if I could at least change to another VT and bag X....
For me the mouse cursor keeps moving but that's it. I have to reboot.
Even logging in via ssh from elsewhere and trying to kill X doesn't
work.
poc
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:42:17 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: no send/receive in evolution
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 20:01 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:34:56 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 14:23 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
>> My send/receive button in evolution is grayed out so unusable. Is there
>> any option to re-enable it? Anybody else seeing this?
>
> You're probably "working offline," see the file menu on the main
window,
> or the plug and socket icon at the bottom left of the main window.
>
>> Also, sometimes when sending messages they just get stuck in the
>> Outbox. I'd have to click on send/receive, but I can't.
>
> Again, probably the same thing. You may have accidentally put yours
> into offline mode, or NetworkManager may have done so (it deciding that
> you're offline, so it puts your applications into offline mode, and
> mayn't put them back into online mode when you go online).
>
That was it. There was a power outage in my area and I do have power
backup for my pcs, but the router is not plugged into the ups. Before I
turned the pc off, NM must have forced evolution offline. I didn't know NM
had such powers. All is well now, thanks!
To be clear: NM isn't doing anything directly to Evo. Evo is doing it to
itself because it believes NM when the latter says it's offline.
poc
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:52:03 +0100
From: Paul Smith <phhs80(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: With Skype, no sound
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Paul Smith<phhs80(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I also run a 64 bit system, and I think sound with skype
on 64 bit F11
>>> doesn't work like it used to for F10. :(
>>
>> I'm running F11-x86_64 and don't have any trouble with sound. If you
>> install Skype with yum, it should take care of any 32-bit dependencies.
>
> Well, Joel, I did install my Skype with yum and the Skype repository,
> but no success.
The problem was solved with
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.20-2.fc11.i586
Yes, the problem was fixed on my desktop computer. However, with my
laptop, I am getting no sound and the following messages on the
console:
$ ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hdmi
Any ideas?
Paul
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:59:04 -0400
From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs(a)clemson.edu>
Subject: Re: no send/receive in evolution
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1249246744.4206.241.camel(a)valkyrie.localdomain>
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 20:01 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:34:56 +0930, Tim wrote:
There was a power outage in my area and I do have power
backup for my pcs, but the router is not plugged into the ups. Before I
turned the pc off, NM must have forced evolution offline. I didn't know NM
had such powers. All is well now, thanks!
I think the applications test periodically to see if they are online.
If I'm wrong, then what happens is NM notifies a service (dbus) that
you've gone offline and the apps either poll that or receive
notification from it.
Corrections welcome from knowledgeable respondents.
--
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Clemson University Math Sciences
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:02:32 -0700
From: Paolo Galtieri <pgaltieri(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox on F9 with latest 64bit flash
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I'm having a problem with firefox and the latest 64 bit flashplayer on
F9. Every time I go to youtube.com firefox crashes with the following:
$ firefox
/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.11/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 24767 Segmentation
fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
has anyone else seen this?
I moved my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way and restarted firefox.
This resulted in a new ~/.mozilla and everything works fine at this
point. I can go to youtube.com and firefox doesn't crash. I can't play
any videos since they require the flash plugin. I create
.mozilla/plugins and copy libflashplayer.so into that directory and
restart firefox. As soon as I go to youtube.com firefox crashes.
$ md5sum .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
9903881108ff7cd954a3adf0d00185d3 .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
$ file ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/home/pgaltieri/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB
shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
I have the same version of libflashplayer.so running on F11 and firefox
does not crash there, however, I'm running the 3.5.1 version of firefox
on F11.
I tried an older version of libflashplayer.so and the same thing happened.
Any thoughts as to what the problem might be and how to fix it?
Paolo
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:02:50 -0400
From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs(a)clemson.edu>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1249246970.4206.248.camel(a)valkyrie.localdomain>
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On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 19:06 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> > They make it incredibly tedious to get rid of all their miserable
> > language-pack cruft -- and the minute you turn your back, they shove it
> > all in again.
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent / disable that abominable practice?
>
Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the
number
here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
I think this is a Fedora packaging issue. ISTR a discussion about
changing the packaging of Fx language packs in the future, but I don't
recall the outcome.
File a bug in Bugzilla (if there isn't one already). If it's an
upstream issue, it can be pushed from there.
>
Actually I don't mind the language extensions per se. What I do
mind is
the insanely tedious process of disabling them one by one, especially as
the disabled state is not persistent across FF versions.
>
> > Or has the time come to admit that the blasted browser is not
> > worth the trouble it takes?
>
> I still prefer it to the alternatives.
>
> poc
>
>
--
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Clemson University Math Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:17:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Beartooth <beartooth(a)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:00:06 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 19:06 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
>> They make it incredibly tedious to get rid of all their miserable
>> language-pack cruft -- and the minute you turn your back, they shove it
>> all in again.
>>
>> Is there a way to prevent / disable that abominable practice?
>
Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the
number
here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
I'd've been glad to -- till it kept telling me over and over, no
matter what else I did, that my ID or password was invalid. This has been
absolutely typical of every attempt I have ever made to use mozillazine
or any other never-to-be-sufficiently-accursed mozilla site. (That's one
reason I posted here, instead of to one of their &%$#& exercises in
frustration.) If I get onto some site of theirs at all, it turns out
absurdly difficult to find anything, and worse to post.
Actually I don't mind the language extensions per se. What I do
mind is
the insanely tedious process of disabling them one by one, especially as
the disabled state is not persistent across FF versions.
Almost exactly what I was trying to say. Only disabling is not
nearly good enough. If you su - a terminal tab to root and launch firefox
from the CLI, you can uninstall instead. It's no more tedious, and then
at least they're off your machine -- for a while.
> Or has the time come to admit that the blasted browser is not
> worth the trouble it takes?
I still prefer it to the alternatives.
There are a few extensions on account of which I've been keeping
it; but that motive grows ever fainter. If I can get those extensions on
some other browser, Firefox (which, alas!, I have used and advocated
since it was Phoenix 0.4) is toast, and good riddance.
--
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I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:29:16 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre(a)sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement,
=09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora. " <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
Cc: Beartooth <beartooth(a)comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090802152916.41943251.theatre(a)sasktel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:17:42 +0000 (UTC)
Beartooth wrote:
If you su - a terminal tab to root and launch firefox
from the CLI, you can uninstall instead. It's no more tedious, and then
at least they're off your machine -- for a while.
You don't need to uninstall the langpacks through Firefox. You can do it with
one single command, as I posted earlier in this thread.
--
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:31:53 +0200
From: Peter Boy <pboy(a)barkhof.uni-bremen.de>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain
Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 14:02 -0600 schrieb Frank Cox:
It's not that tedious, only one command:
rm -fr /usr/lib/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
rm -fr /usr/lib64/firefox-*/extensions/langpack-*
But may be tedious afterwards if you need to have a single, namely your
native, non-english language.
And, generally, it's not a good idea to delete files which are managed
by a package manager.
Peter
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:34:37 -0400
From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley(a)att.net>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
Message-ID: <20090802173437.6cd669fd@zooty>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:29:16 -0600
Frank Cox wrote:
You don't need to uninstall the langpacks through Firefox. You
can do it with
one single command, as I posted earlier in this thread.
Thanks! That looks like something that will be going in my fix-firefox
script which I automatically run via the after-yum-hook I whipped
out one day that automatically runs my collection of fixup scripts
every time yum finishes :-). Very useful to beat back undead
things that keep getting reinstalled by updates...
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:44:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Amadeus W.M." <amadeus84(a)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: no send/receive in evolution
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
Message-ID: <pan.2009.08.02.21.44.05(a)verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
To be clear: NM isn't doing anything directly to Evo. Evo is
doing it to
itself because it believes NM when the latter says it's offline.
Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the clarification.
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:49:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: Beartooth <beartooth(a)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: How to gut &%$#&#@ Firefox?
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
Message-ID: <h551lh$rhe$3(a)ger.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:02:50 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
[...]
> Complain to Mozilla. They have a Bugzilla page. If you post the
number
> here I'm sure a lot of people will back you up.
Tried repeatedly; failed;
details above.
I think this is a Fedora packaging issue. ISTR a discussion about
changing the packaging of Fx language packs in the future, but I don't
recall the outcome.
File a bug in Bugzilla (if there isn't one already). If it's an
upstream issue, it can be pushed from there.
I took you to mean a bug against Fedora. It is now Bug 515153.
Thank you.
Y'all pile on, now!
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