Re: Which VirtualBox repo to use?

[Rick Stevens]

On 04/06/2018 05:57 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
>  On 07/04/18 10:02, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 04/07/18 07:03, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> >> On 04/04/18 13:21, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> >>> I have been using VirtualBox for a long while. Looking at what rpms
> >>> are available
> >>> I see:
> >>>
> >>> $ dnf list '*VirtualBox*'
> >>> Last metadata expiration check: 19 days, 23:03:27 ago on Thu Mar 15
> >>> 14:29:34 2018.
> >>> Installed Packages
> >>> VirtualBox-5.2.x86_64                      5.2.8_121009_fedora26-1
> >>> @virtualbox
> >>> Available Packages
> >>> VirtualBox.x86_64                          5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> VirtualBox-5.1.x86_64                      5.1.34_121010_fedora26-1
> >>> virtualbox
> >>> VirtualBox-devel.i686                      5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> VirtualBox-devel.x86_64                    5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> VirtualBox-guest-additions.x86_64          5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> VirtualBox-kmodsrc.x86_64                  5.1.22-1.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free
> >>> VirtualBox-kmodsrc.noarch                  5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> VirtualBox-server.x86_64                   5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> VirtualBox-webservice.x86_64               5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> akmod-VirtualBox.x86_64                    5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> kmod-VirtualBox.x86_64                     5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>> python-VirtualBox.x86_64                   5.2.6-2.fc26
> >>> rpmfusion-free-updates
> >>>
> >>> Which repo [virtualbox (Oracle) or rpmfusion] should one use?
> >>> Is Oracle simply a more up-to-date repo? Does rpmfusion packages
> >>> actually fetch
> >>> the Oracle rpm, or is rpmfusion a separate, full build?
> >>>
> >>> The size difference is significant:
> >>>       rpmfusion    VirtualBox-5.2.8-2.fc26.x86_64.rpm             8.1MB
> >>>       virtualbox   
> >>> VirtualBox-5.2-5.2.8_121009_fedora26-1.x86_64.rpm    69  MB
> >>>
> >>> If the two are different: if I change to use the rpmfusion repo,
> >>> will the VMs be
> >>> compatible?
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >>
> >> Anyone? Should be an easy question for someone who knows?
> >
> > See https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Licensing_FAQ
> >
> > Since RPMFusion is using the VirtualBox name they would be required to
> > follow the
> > license.  Specifically:
> >
> > "The term “VirtualBox” has been registered by Oracle as a trademark in
> > various
> > countries. If you choose to ship custom binaries and/or source code
> > revisions of the
> > product, you may not use the VirtualBox name in those versions."
> >
> > Therefore, RPMFusion has built their packages from Oracle's source and
> > have decided
> > to package things in multiple rpms as opposed to a single rpm like
> > Oracle has done.
> > They have also modified the way kernel modules are built when the
> > kernel packages get
> > updated.
> >
> > And, since they are using the VirtualBox name they must not have made
> > any changes
> > such that a VM created on their release would be incompatible with the
> > Oracle release.
> >
> > So, using either one is fine and pretty much just a personal choice.
>  
>  Thanks. Looking at the huge difference in size between the two sources,
>  I wonder if
>  rpmfusion broke the single package from virtualbox into separate
>  packages. The size
>  still does not fully add up though.
>  
>  Does anyone know what is different between the two sources? I mean, why
>  would rpmfusion
>  put the effort for no added value? Maybe the virtualbox repo includes
>  fluff that rpmfusion
>  removed?
>  
>  $ sudo dnf install VirtualBox
>  ====================================================================================
>  
>   Package                       Arch     Version       
>  Repository               Size
>  ====================================================================================
>  
>  Installing:
>   VirtualBox                    x86_64   5.2.8-2.fc26  
>  rpmfusion-free-updates  8.1 M
>  Installing dependencies:
>   VirtualBox-kmodsrc            noarch   5.2.8-2.fc26  
>  rpmfusion-free-updates  801 k
>   VirtualBox-server             x86_64   5.2.8-2.fc26  
>  rpmfusion-free-updates   15 M
>   akmod-VirtualBox              x86_64   5.2.8-3.fc26  
>  rpmfusion-free-updates   31 k
>   akmods                        noarch   0.5.6-12.fc26 
>  updates                  24 k
>   kmodtool                      noarch   1-24.fc26     
>  fedora                   16 k
>  
>  Transaction Summary
>  ====================================================================================
>  
>  Install  6 Packages
>  
>  Total download size: 24 M
>  Installed size: 66 M 
The additive sizes of all the rpmfusion packages may not match what the
virtualbox repo offers because a) they are packaged differently; and b)
there MAY be things rpmfusion doesn't include because inclusion in
rpmfusion might violate a copyright or patent--and Fedora/Red Hat try
really hard to NOT violate copyrights and patents.
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