On 06/01/2010 09:39 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
So let's make the assumption that surveys are a useful tool and leave it
at that. If you are uncomfortable with that assumption then we can't
engage in this discussion together, I'm sorry.
Only when done properly....
> Are you saying that 19% is an insignificant portion of the community?
> What percentage must it be to garner consideration? What is the
> threshold? What is the margin of error in the survey?
>
If I told you the margin of error of the survey (not difficult to
calculate) would you even understand how to interpret it?
"I" may no be able to.... However, I have mentioned that I do have a
very good friend who has been in the business of designing and taking
surveys for the past 20+ years.
I'll take your survey, and its conclusions and run it by him.
Did you read the survey analysis and see that the percentages were
additive? Did you notice that the numbers in the piechart don't add up
to 100%? This is because users were able to select more than one
download method. So if someone used both torrents and mirrors, they were
counted in the 19% of torrent users.
Yep...read it....looked at the charts. Noticed that...knew it would be
the case.
> While this is purely anecdotal..... My dad is 84 years old. He had
> been a long time MS-Windows user. I got tired of trying to fix his
> Windows problems via long distance. Last year we talked about it and he
> agree to move to Linux. One of the first questions he asked me was "can
> I download it with bittorrent?". That is probably due to his addiction
> to "The Pirate Bay". The point is, torrents are not only for the highly
> technical.
>
Anecdotal evidence about your 84-year-old father is not an appropriate
response to quantitative and objective data. If you are willing to step
outside of your immediate surroundings and gather some actual data to
inform the design we would obviously be more than welcome to consider it
in our design processes in the future.
It was simply to illustrate that not only technical people use
torrents. I thought the last sentence would have clued you into that....
> But, isn't it time to let this go? The Get Fedora page has now been
> modified. One can now find the torrents from that page. It may be a
> bit more obscured than I would have it...but it is there.
>
You're the one who continued to post to the thread...
I only responded today after "several" additional posts by you. One
of
which I directly took issue with as I felt is mis-characterized what
transpired.
As I said, the Get Fedora page has been modified to include torrents.
So, what is the point to continue to defend the decision to exclude them?
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