On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 05:24:23AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
see RancherOS
http://rancher.com/rancher-os/
``Eliminates need for complex init systems
RancherOS eliminates the need for complex init systems like systemd.
Systemd and Docker don’t work well together as they both attempt to
manage control groups. Using a simple configuration file,
administrators can easily configure system services as Docker
containers.''
I am actually surprised and puzzled by this! I thought Fedora was
bleeding edge* and was the pioneer of new technologies* but now
someone else is leading the init* technologies. Yes there was upstart
by ubuntu, there is uslessD, and other non systemd software out there
but these guys they may have a mission*
Well, I'd count the "systemd and docker don't work together well"
bit with some degree of skepticism. But, on the larger point:
Fedora doesn't strive to be bleeding edge. We strive to be the first to
offer the newest and best of _functional_ open source software. And
that's a hard balance to get right — sometimes, eager contributors and
developers get things into Fedora that _aren't_ quite ready. Other
times, we're too conservative.
But I also don't see systemd as a crux of this. Another hot new minimal
startup distribution, CoreOS, is _based around_ systemd.
In any case, the Fedora.next initiative
<
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next> is an attempt to work on
this balance in new and different ways, with Fedora Cloud in particular
being a space for experimenting with some of these new concepts (as
that's sort of the incubation space for new OS technologies in the
world at large right now).
Debian--> Devuan
Fedora --> Fedoruan?
If you're interested in exploring a remix like that, see
<
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix> (although note that "Fedoruan"
is probably not acceptable with our trademark guidelines).
--
Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader