yum can't seem to find kdemultimedia-extras in the Fedora repo, nor in Livna. Ditto for kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree.
Has anyone seen them, or have they been removed or replaced for F9?
poc
On Tue, 27 May 2008 18:01:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
yum can't seem to find kdemultimedia-extras in the Fedora repo, nor in Livna. Ditto for kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree.
Has anyone seen them, or have they been removed or replaced for F9?
Livna svn says:
$ cat livna/packages/kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree/devel/dead.package kde4's kdemultimedia doesn't include any nonfree bits.
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:06 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 18:01:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
yum can't seem to find kdemultimedia-extras in the Fedora repo, nor in Livna. Ditto for kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree.
Has anyone seen them, or have they been removed or replaced for F9?
Livna svn says:
$ cat livna/packages/kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree/devel/dead.package kde4's kdemultimedia doesn't include any nonfree bits.
Does that mean "will actively prevent you from using non-free bits" or "will oblige you to look elsewhere to get the non-free bits"? The latter has been the policy up to now, hence the existence of *-extras-nonfree.
poc
On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:10:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:06 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 18:01:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
yum can't seem to find kdemultimedia-extras in the Fedora repo, nor in Livna. Ditto for kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree.
Has anyone seen them, or have they been removed or replaced for F9?
Livna svn says:
$ cat livna/packages/kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree/devel/dead.package kde4's kdemultimedia doesn't include any nonfree bits.
Does that mean "will actively prevent you from using non-free bits" or "will oblige you to look elsewhere to get the non-free bits"? The latter has been the policy up to now, hence the existence of *-extras-nonfree.
It means that upstream's kdemultimedia tarball does not contain any non-free stuff that could go into the livna package. Nothing to build => no such extra package anymore.
If you see missing features, you may need to look for other add-on packages, but I think xine-lib usage in KDE fills the gap nowadays. "yum install xine-lib-extras-nonfree" for the non-free bits.
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:16 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:10:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:06 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 18:01:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
yum can't seem to find kdemultimedia-extras in the Fedora repo, nor in Livna. Ditto for kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree.
Has anyone seen them, or have they been removed or replaced for F9?
Livna svn says:
$ cat livna/packages/kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree/devel/dead.package kde4's kdemultimedia doesn't include any nonfree bits.
Does that mean "will actively prevent you from using non-free bits" or "will oblige you to look elsewhere to get the non-free bits"? The latter has been the policy up to now, hence the existence of *-extras-nonfree.
It means that upstream's kdemultimedia tarball does not contain any non-free stuff that could go into the livna package. Nothing to build => no such extra package anymore.
I hadn't realized that upstream previously *did* allow non-free stuff. I always assumed it came from third party packagers. Oh well, we live and learn.
If you see missing features, you may need to look for other add-on packages, but I think xine-lib usage in KDE fills the gap nowadays. "yum install xine-lib-extras-nonfree" for the non-free bits.
OK.
poc
On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:40:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:16 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:10:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:06 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 18:01:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
yum can't seem to find kdemultimedia-extras in the Fedora repo, nor in Livna. Ditto for kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree.
Has anyone seen them, or have they been removed or replaced for F9?
Livna svn says:
$ cat livna/packages/kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree/devel/dead.package kde4's kdemultimedia doesn't include any nonfree bits.
Does that mean "will actively prevent you from using non-free bits" or "will oblige you to look elsewhere to get the non-free bits"? The latter has been the policy up to now, hence the existence of *-extras-nonfree.
It means that upstream's kdemultimedia tarball does not contain any non-free stuff that could go into the livna package. Nothing to build => no such extra package anymore.
I hadn't realized that upstream previously *did* allow non-free stuff. I always assumed it came from third party packagers. Oh well, we live and learn.
They either included and/or used external non-free stuff, e.g. codec libraries for patent encumbered A/V formats.
For the Fedora package, the upstream source tarball either had to be stripped in order to exclude bits that Fedora cannot distribute, or some components were not built or were built without non-free features only.
The free -extras package was from the Fedora Extras era and is no longer necessary after the Core/Extras merger. The -extras-nonfree package was built from an unstripped tarball and/or with non-free build dependencies available at livna.