some suggestions...
- that you use keep discussions on the list and not think of me as your personal support dude.
- that you suggested that you updated to Fedora 9 but that boot options are Fedora 8 and have to answer my first question about how you updated from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 - i.e. the process used because it appears that it failed. You probably don't realize that when you fail to answer the first question I asked, I lost a lot of enthusiasm to help.
- let whatever updates do their thing because it does seem as though you've got something very unfinished installed there and if it were completely updated, that seems that would be a good thing.
- that you learn to read release notes, especially before doing things like update an installation because sometimes, they are really important.
- if after the updates, gnome still fails to give you menus with applications, someone on the list can tell you how to restore them back to defaults.
Craig
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:08 +0000, vohnmaxwell@bellsouth.net wrote:
After some trial and error and gnashing of teeth, I have finally gotten to the point where I can bring up 2 separate terminal sessions within the Gnome Gui Desktop. However, I am still not able to click on applications, such as FireFox or Yum and have it launch within the gui desktop.
I will use the terminal sessions to continue updating Fedora 9 (about 500 currently).
Could the possible issue with launching the applictions within the desk top be related to the boot options? When I boot and press any keep to bypass the default (Xen), the options it displays are for Fedora 8 not 9.
-------------- Original message from Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>: -------------- > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 13:11 +0000, vohnmaxwell@bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > Here a are the steps I've taken and the results. > > > > 1) Installed Fedora 9 > > Found that Fedora 9 does not support Xen very well. When > > loading, it would encounter a (XEN) Xen is relinquishing VGA console > > message then hang up. When I would bypass XEN and attempt to use one > > of the listed Fedora versions, which I would have assumed would be > > Fedora 9, the list would be for versions of Fedora 8. After they > > would load, the applications would not run. I would click on an > > application, say Firefox, and it would not load. Nothing would > > happen. I would seem that Fedora was confused by having some parts > > perhaps Fedora 9 and others Fedora 8 and not being compatable. > ---- > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Virtualization.html > > "However, the Xen kernel now lacks Dom0 support. An existing Xen > host/Dom0 must continue to run Fedora 8. Xen Dom0 support will be added > back in Fedora 10." > > This was in the release notes for Fedora 9 > ---- > > 2) I tried the Rescue and was confused as to what/how it worked. > > if said that it put my system to /mnt/sysimage and that I could > > use the chroot /mnt/sysimage. Well, I am a GUI kind-of-guy and I am > > clumbsy using anything in command mode. > ---- > I would suggest that you become familiar with it because that would > appear to be necessary to bring your system back online. > > boot linux rescue > command line stuff... > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > yum update # you really need to update > yum update # you will probably need to update again because > # the first update will probably just add updates.newkey > grub-install /dev/sda > ---- > > 3) when I backed out of the RESCUE and rebooted into one of the > > Fedora versions (not XEN), it came up with the main screen but no > > applications, not icons and the title bar at the bootom and 2 items > > which siad (UNKNOWN). Clicking on these resulted in nothing > > happening. > ---- > I'm not sure what your intentions are with Xen but it's not going to > work right for Fedora 9...the release notes do make note of that. > ---- > > 4) I then attempted to do a reload of Fedora 9 (update an existing > > release). This results in just the word GRUB appearing in the > > upper left of an otherwise blank screen. Nothing happens after this. > ---- > try above instructions...should help > ---- > > It this juncture, I am very concerned. I have photos and scanned > > documents on the drive and want to pull them off before I screw things > > up more. > ---- > sounds as if they might be on one of the Xen domains but how would I > know that. > > It might be best to install the Fedora 10 test at this point just to get > Xen working again...I am just not aware how well it works and what is > broken. > > Craig >
I've upgraded/updated installed packages for Fedora 9. I've removed Xen. I am able to start either KDE or Gnome.
However, individual applications are a hit-or-miss. Very much a miss with either KDE or Gnome. The application will give all indications that it is starting, either the message on the status bar or a flash screen. But, it does not start. The only ones I have been successful to start thus far are Kyum (both), Terminal (Gnome), File Manager (Dolphan in KDE).
When I shut down in Gnome, the system hangs.
I hope some one has some ideas.
Thanks. -------------- Original message from Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com: --------------
some suggestions...
- that you use keep discussions on the list and not think of me as your
personal support dude.
- that you suggested that you updated to Fedora 9 but that boot options
are Fedora 8 and have to answer my first question about how you updated from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 - i.e. the process used because it appears that it failed. You probably don't realize that when you fail to answer the first question I asked, I lost a lot of enthusiasm to help.
- let whatever updates do their thing because it does seem as though
you've got something very unfinished installed there and if it were completely updated, that seems that would be a good thing.
- that you learn to read release notes, especially before doing things
like update an installation because sometimes, they are really important.
- if after the updates, gnome still fails to give you menus with
applications, someone on the list can tell you how to restore them back to defaults.
Craig
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:08 +0000, vohnmaxwell@bellsouth.net wrote:
After some trial and error and gnashing of teeth, I have finally gotten to the point where I can bring up 2 separate terminal sessions within the Gnome Gui Desktop. However, I am still not able to click on applications, such as FireFox or Yum and have it launch within the gui desktop.
I will use the terminal sessions to continue updating Fedora 9 (about 500 currently).
Could the possible issue with launching the applictions within the desk top be related to the boot options? When I boot and press any keep to bypass the default (Xen), the options it displays are for Fedora 8 not 9.
-------------- Original message from Craig White : --------------
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 13:11 +0000, vohnmaxwell@bellsouth.net
wrote:
Here a are the steps I've taken and the results.
- Installed Fedora 9
Found that Fedora 9 does not support Xen very well. When loading, it would encounter a (XEN) Xen is relinquishing
VGA console
message then hang up. When I would bypass XEN and attempt
to use one
of the listed Fedora versions, which I would have assumed
would be
Fedora 9, the list would be for versions of Fedora 8.
After they
would load, the applications would not run. I would click
on an
application, say Firefox, and it would not load. Nothing
would
happen. I would seem that Fedora was confused by having
some parts
perhaps Fedora 9 and others Fedora 8 and not being
compatable.
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Virtualization.html
"However, the Xen kernel now lacks Dom0 support. An existing
Xen
host/Dom0 must continue to run Fedora 8. Xen Dom0 support
will be added
back in Fedora 10."
This was in the release notes for Fedora 9
- I tried the Rescue and was confused as to what/how it
worked.
if said that it put my system to /mnt/sysimage and that I
could
use the chroot /mnt/sysimage. Well, I am a GUI kind-of-guy
and I am
clumbsy using anything in command mode.
I would suggest that you become familiar with it because
that would
appear to be necessary to bring your system back online.
boot linux rescue command line stuff...
chroot /mnt/sysimage yum update # you really need to update yum update # you will probably need to update again because # the first update will probably just add updates.newkey grub-install /dev/sda
- when I backed out of the RESCUE and rebooted into one
of the
Fedora versions (not XEN), it came up with the main screen
but no
applications, not icons and the title bar at the bootom
and 2 items
which siad (UNKNOWN). Clicking on these resulted in
nothing
happening.
I'm not sure what your intentions are with Xen but it's not
going to
work right for Fedora 9...the release notes do make note of
that.
- I then attempted to do a reload of Fedora 9 (update an
existing
release). This results in just the word GRUB appearing in
the
upper left of an otherwise blank screen. Nothing happens
after this.
try above instructions...should help
It this juncture, I am very concerned. I have photos and
scanned
documents on the drive and want to pull them off before I
screw things
up more.
sounds as if they might be on one of the Xen domains but how
would I
know that.
It might be best to install the Fedora 10 test at this point
just to get
Xen working again...I am just not aware how well it works
and what is
broken.
Craig