Synaptic with Fedora?

[Timothy Murphy]

Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
Is that really necessary?

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[ntr]

Yes... my "mouse" is a synaptic touchpad... and I use it perfectly with
fedora 1, even the central button to scroll the windows... but fedora
doesn't recognize it at first glance... so I found this driver:

http://littleelephant.altervista.org/files/synaptics-0.12.3.tar.bz2

you decompress it, type make, and then copy the synaptic_drv.o into
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/

it works perfectly

norton
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On Fri, 7 May 2004, Timothy Murphy wrote:

>  Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
>  The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
>  Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
>  Is that really necessary?
>
>  --
>  Timothy Murphy
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>
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[Elliott Wilcoxon]

You need to google 'synaptic'.

Elliott Wilcoxon

Norton Trevisan Roman wrote:
>  Yes... my "mouse" is a synaptic touchpad... and I use it
> perfectly with
>  fedora 1, even the central button to scroll the windows... but fedora
>  doesn't recognize it at first glance... so I found this driver:
>  
>  http://littleelephant.altervista.org/files/synaptics-0.12.3.tar.bz2
>  
>  you decompress it, type make, and then copy the synaptic_drv.o into
>  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/
>  
>  it works perfectly
>  
>  norton
>  ---
>  QVIDQVID LATINE DICTVM SIT ALTVM VIDETVR.

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:16:40PM -0500, Elliott Wilcoxon wrote:
>  You need to google 'synaptic'. 
You might need to too. You're both right. :)

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[Elliott Wilcoxon]

Yes yes, I'm typing this right now on my laptop with a Synaptics 
Touchpad, but the first hit on google is the software we're talking 
about here ;-)

Elliott Wilcoxon

Matthew Miller wrote:
>  On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:16:40PM -0500, Elliott Wilcoxon wrote:
>  
> >You need to google 'synaptic'.
>  
>  
>  You might need to too. You're both right. :)
>

[ntr]

yeah, but as the original question included apt, I think I was less right
8), plus... I was happy for having my laptop's touchpad working perfectly
8)... by the way... it's a synaptics

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On Sat, 8 May 2004, Matthew Miller wrote:

>  On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:16:40PM -0500, Elliott Wilcoxon wrote:
>  > You need to google 'synaptic'.
>
>  You might need to too. You're both right. :)
>
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[ntr]

ops... sorry... I was bearing that touchpad in mind...

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On Fri, 7 May 2004, Elliott Wilcoxon wrote:

>  You need to google 'synaptic'.
>
>  Elliott Wilcoxon
>
>  Norton Trevisan Roman wrote:
>  > Yes... my "mouse" is a synaptic touchpad... and I use it perfectly with
>  > fedora 1, even the central button to scroll the windows... but fedora
>  > doesn't recognize it at first glance... so I found this driver:
>  >
>  > http://littleelephant.altervista.org/files/synaptics-0.12.3.tar.bz2
>  >
>  > you decompress it, type make, and then copy the synaptic_drv.o into
>  > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/
>  >
>  > it works perfectly
>  >
>  > norton
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[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Fr, den 07.05.2004 schrieb Timothy Murphy um 22:22:

>  Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
>  The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
>  Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
>  Is that really necessary? 
>  Timothy Murphy   
Sure you can use synaptic with apt for prm on Fedora. This list's
archive contains dozens of messages mentioning synatic. Check out
fedora.us for an FC1 package.

Alexander


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[Clint Mendola]

On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 16:22, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
>  The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
>  Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
>  Is that really necessary?
>  
>  -- 
>  Timothy Murphy  
>  e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
>  tel: [phone]
>  s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland 
http://apt.freshrpms.net/
This page has links to apt for lots of distros.  Fedora is at the top of
the list, yay!  Anyway, once you get apt installed run
"apt-get update && apt-get install synaptic."
What's really cool is that synaptic automatically shows up on the gnome
panel menu under "System Tools"

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:22:09PM +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
>  The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
>  Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
>  Is that really necessary? 
For rpm, you start them all with 'rpm'. But you'll need the rpm-enabled
verions of the programs.

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[Timothy Murphy]

Matthew Miller wrote:

> > Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
> > The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
> > Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
> > Is that really necessary?
>  
>  For rpm, you start them all with 'rpm'. But you'll need the rpm-enabled
>  verions of the programs. 
Where do you get such a beast?
I got the Fedora-1 version from freshrpms (as an RPM).

The man page for sources.list says
============================================
The format of each  line  is:  type
uri  args. The first item, type, determines the format for args.
============================================
Unfortunately, it never says what values "type" can take,
and the dozen or so examples all have type "deb".

[How can a person writing a man-page use a term like "type"
without ever explaining what the possible types are?]

However, I've copied the entries from my /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources
to /etc/apt/sources.list edited so that there are just 2 items
in each line, the first being "rpm", ie
=============================================
rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/
rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/i386/
#rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/i386/
=============================================

Assuming this is what one has to do,
I find it amazing that it is not stated clearly in the synaptic docs.

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s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 08 May 2004 13:39:31 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

>  Matthew Miller wrote:
>  
>  >> Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
>  >> The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
>  >> Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
>  >> Is that really necessary?
>  > 
>  > For rpm, you start them all with 'rpm'. But you'll need the rpm-enabled
>  > verions of the programs.
>  
>  Where do you get such a beast? 
http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO

[Wolfgang]

On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 22:39, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Matthew Miller wrote:
>  
>  >> Can one use synaptic with Fedora-1?
>  >> The synaptic (& apt) docs seem very Debian oriented.
>  >> Eg the example sources.list starts all lines with "deb".
>  >> Is that really necessary?
>  > 
>  > For rpm, you start them all with 'rpm'. But you'll need the rpm-enabled
>  > verions of the programs.
>  
>  Where do you get such a beast?
>  I got the Fedora-1 version from freshrpms (as an RPM).
>  
>  The man page for sources.list says
>  ============================================
>  The format of each  line  is:  type
>  uri  args. The first item, type, determines the format for args.
>  ============================================
>  Unfortunately, it never says what values "type" can take,
>  and the dozen or so examples all have type "deb".
>  
>  [How can a person writing a man-page use a term like "type"
>  without ever explaining what the possible types are?]
>  
>  However, I've copied the entries from my /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources
>  to /etc/apt/sources.list edited so that there are just 2 items
>  in each line, the first being "rpm", ie
>  =============================================
>  rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/
>  rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/i386/
>  #rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/i386/
>  =============================================
>  
>  Assuming this is what one has to do,
>  I find it amazing that it is not stated clearly in the synaptic docs.
>  
>  -- 
>  Timothy Murphy  
>  e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
>  tel: [phone]
>  s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
>   
Download the APT & SYNAPTIC files from this site. And install. That's
all, that's to it. The repository is setup automatically.

http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/

Wolf

[Timothy Murphy]

Wolfgang wrote:

>  Download the APT & SYNAPTIC files from this site. And install.
> That's
>  all, that's to it. The repository is setup automatically.
>  
>  http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/ 
The RPM there is the one I downloaded (from http://rpmfind.net/).
I installed it, but it did not set up any repository automatically
(I don't see how it could.)
More to the point, /etc/apt/sources.list is empty.
The documentation does not tell you the format of entries in this file,
unless you happen to be running Debian.
(I found an example of an RPM entry on the fedora-list archives.)

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s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

[duncan brown]

tim,
  what you're looking for is the individual sources.list for the different
repositories.  you'll also need the GPG key from each for the rpms to be
validated.

  also, i recommend doing an

  rpm -ev apt

  and then going to fedora.us and grabbing the official extras apt rpm
frmo there, when you first run it you'll get a mirror selection screen.

and to bring it back up, use

apt-get mirror-select

-d

Timothy Murphy said:
>  Wolfgang wrote:
>
> > Download the APT & SYNAPTIC files from this site. And install. That's
> > all, that's to it. The repository is setup automatically.
> >
> > http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/
>
>  The RPM there is the one I downloaded (from http://rpmfind.net/).
>  I installed it, but it did not set up any repository automatically (I
>  don't see how it could.)
>  More to the point, /etc/apt/sources.list is empty.
>  The documentation does not tell you the format of entries in this file,
>  unless you happen to be running Debian.
>  (I found an example of an RPM entry on the fedora-list archives.)
>
>  --
>  Timothy Murphy
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>
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[Wolfgang]

On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 05:34, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Wolfgang wrote:
>  
>  > Download the APT & SYNAPTIC files from this site. And install. That's
>  > all, that's to it. The repository is setup automatically.
>  > 
>  > http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/
>  
>  The RPM there is the one I downloaded (from http://rpmfind.net/).
>  I installed it, but it did not set up any repository automatically
>  (I don't see how it could.)
>  More to the point, /etc/apt/sources.list is empty.
>  The documentation does not tell you the format of entries in this file,
>  unless you happen to be running Debian.
>  (I found an example of an RPM entry on the fedora-list archives.)
>  
>  -- 
>  Timothy Murphy   
[snip]

If you downloaded it from http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/ it would have
been automatically configured. So now you have to go to this site to get
the settings and configure it manually.

Wolf

[Timothy Murphy]

Wolfgang wrote:

> > The RPM there is the one I downloaded (from http://rpmfind.net/).
>  If you downloaded it from http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/ it would have
>  been automatically configured. So now you have to go to this site to get
>  the settings and configure it manually. 
Are you saying that if you download the same RPM from different sites
then it may install in a different way?

(The RPM in both places is synaptic-0.48.2-1.1.fc1.fr.i386.rpm .)

Incidentally, I tried an entry in sources.list which I found
in the fedora-list archives (but with a local URL) namely
rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/
but synaptic complains that this line is not in proper format.

Could anyone who is running synaptic successfully under Fedora-1
please send me, or post, their sources.list .




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tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

[Wolfgang]

On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 21:36, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Wolfgang wrote:
>  
>  >> The RPM there is the one I downloaded (from http://rpmfind.net/).
>  
>  > If you downloaded it from http://yarrow.freshrpms.net/ it would have
>  > been automatically configured. So now you have to go to this site to get
>  > the settings and configure it manually.
>  
>  Are you saying that if you download the same RPM from different sites
>  then it may install in a different way?
>  
>  (The RPM in both places is synaptic-0.48.2-1.1.fc1.fr.i386.rpm .)
>  
>  Incidentally, I tried an entry in sources.list which I found
>  in the fedora-list archives (but with a local URL) namely
>  rpm http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/
>  but synaptic complains that this line is not in proper format.
>  
>  Could anyone who is running synaptic successfully under Fedora-1
>  please send me, or post, their sources.list .
>  -- 
>  Timothy Murphy   
[snip]

No, I'm saying that I downloaded APT from freshrpms and I didn't have to
configure their repository. Here is a copy of one of their lists. Just
remove the # from the fedora entry to use it.

Wolf

[Mark Lanett]

From: "Timothy Murphy" <tim(a)birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie&gt;
>  Could anyone who is running synaptic successfully under Fedora-1
>  please send me, or post, their sources.list . 
I used the Wiki instructions (google Fedora HOWTO) to install apt and
synaptic. Worked perfectly.

wget
http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/apt-0.5.15cnc6...
rpm -i apt-0.5.15cnc6-0.fdr.11.1.i386.rpm
apt-get mirror-select
apt-get install synaptic

~mark