how to play an audio cd?

[slamp slamp]

is anyone successful in playing an audio cd? i insert an audio cd,
fedora 10 nicely asks what i want to do, i select open in rhythmbox
but it does nothing. i tried audacious but that does not play either.
sound juicer is able to play the audio cd but sound juicer is not an
audio player. ive replaced my xp desktop with fedora and loving it but
im surprised that something as simple as playing an audio cd is not
working for the 10th iteration of fedora. im a big fan of linux as a
whole and i can handle a bug like this but someone not as computer
literate as i am although im no expert would be turned away in an
instant.

[Ed Greshko]

slamp slamp wrote:
> is anyone successful in playing an audio cd? i insert an audio cd,
> fedora 10 nicely asks what i want to do, i select open in rhythmbox
> but it does nothing. i tried audacious but that does not play either.
> sound juicer is able to play the audio cd but sound juicer is not an
> audio player. ive replaced my xp desktop with fedora and loving it but
> im surprised that something as simple as playing an audio cd is not
> working for the 10th iteration of fedora. im a big fan of linux as a
> whole and i can handle a bug like this but someone not as computer
> literate as i am although im no expert would be turned away in an
> instant.

By "does nothing" do you really mean "nothing"?  Or, does the cd spin
the timer counts but not sound?

I've not played audio cd's in a long time....but I do recall that some
players expect the audio plug of the cdplayer be connected by wire to
the sound card.  That is the way I have my system configured....and I
also need to enable the cd in the mixer.  I use kmix.

[slamp slamp]

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> slamp slamp wrote:
> > is anyone successful in playing an audio cd? i insert an audio cd,
> > fedora 10 nicely asks what i want to do, i select open in rhythmbox
> > but it does nothing. i tried audacious but that does not play either.
> > sound juicer is able to play the audio cd but sound juicer is not an
> > audio player. ive replaced my xp desktop with fedora and loving it but
> > im surprised that something as simple as playing an audio cd is not
> > working for the 10th iteration of fedora. im a big fan of linux as a
> > whole and i can handle a bug like this but someone not as computer
> > literate as i am although im no expert would be turned away in an
> > instant.
>
> By "does nothing" do you really mean "nothing"?  Or, does the cd spin
> the timer counts but not sound?
>
> I've not played audio cd's in a long time....but I do recall that some
> players expect the audio plug of the cdplayer be connected by wire to
> the sound card.  That is the way I have my system configured....and I
> also need to enable the cd in the mixer.  I use kmix.
>
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it spins for a few seconds then it stops. nothing else happens in
rhythmbox, no timer etc. i am using gnome, volume is good like i said
cd plays in sound juicer. is it possible the rhythmbox/gstreamer can't
play wav files? ive installed all plugins for gstreamer but i am not
sure if rhythmbox uses gstreamer. i dont have the analog cable from my
cd/dvd drive to my sound card.

[Cameron Simpson]

On 27Dec2008 00:33, slamp slamp  wrote:
| is anyone successful in playing an audio cd? i insert an audio cd,
| fedora 10 nicely asks what i want to do, i select open in rhythmbox
| but it does nothing. i tried audacious but that does not play either.
| sound juicer is able to play the audio cd but sound juicer is not an
| audio player. ive replaced my xp desktop with fedora and loving it but
| im surprised that something as simple as playing an audio cd is not
| working for the 10th iteration of fedora. im a big fan of linux as a
| whole and i can handle a bug like this but someone not as computer
| literate as i am although im no expert would be turned away in an
| instant.

I can't speak for Fedora 10 specificly but I used to use a command called
"cdplay" which I think played CDs using the drive's own onboard facility. You
could plug headphones into the CD drive audio jack, or hook the drive audio
out to your sound card I believe (then you need to hook some more software to
your sound card of course).

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 27 December 2008 06:13:25 slamp slamp wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> > slamp slamp wrote:
> > > is anyone successful in playing an audio cd? i insert an audio cd,
> > > fedora 10 nicely asks what i want to do, i select open in rhythmbox
> > > but it does nothing. i tried audacious but that does not play either.
> > > sound juicer is able to play the audio cd but sound juicer is not an
> > > audio player. ive replaced my xp desktop with fedora and loving it but
> > > im surprised that something as simple as playing an audio cd is not
> > > working for the 10th iteration of fedora. im a big fan of linux as a
> > > whole and i can handle a bug like this but someone not as computer
> > > literate as i am although im no expert would be turned away in an
> > > instant.
> >
> > By "does nothing" do you really mean "nothing"?  Or, does the cd spin
> > the timer counts but not sound?
> >
> > I've not played audio cd's in a long time....but I do recall that some
> > players expect the audio plug of the cdplayer be connected by wire to
> > the sound card.  That is the way I have my system configured....and I
> > also need to enable the cd in the mixer.  I use kmix.
> >
> > --
> > Virtue would go far if vanity did not keep it company. -- La
> > Rochefoucauld [e-mail]
> >
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> > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
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> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
>
> it spins for a few seconds then it stops. nothing else happens in
> rhythmbox, no timer etc. i am using gnome, volume is good like i said
> cd plays in sound juicer. is it possible the rhythmbox/gstreamer can't
> play wav files? ive installed all plugins for gstreamer but i am not
> sure if rhythmbox uses gstreamer. i dont have the analog cable from my
> cd/dvd drive to my sound card.

I believe that the release notes mentioned that there is an issue with playing 
disks digitally.  Have you read

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-
notes/f10/en_US/Upfront_About_Multimedia.html ?

Anne

[Tim]

On Sat, 2008-12-27 at 01:13 -0500, slamp slamp wrote:
> it spins for a few seconds then it stops. nothing else happens in
> rhythmbox, no timer etc. i am using gnome, volume is good like i said
> cd plays in sound juicer. is it possible the rhythmbox/gstreamer can't
> play wav files? ive installed all plugins for gstreamer but i am not
> sure if rhythmbox uses gstreamer. i dont have the analog cable from my
> cd/dvd drive to my sound card.

It sounds like your old windows installation used digital audio playback
(using the raw data from the disc, fed down the data lead, and the
computer turning it into audio).  This is generally the way that you
"rip" audio discs, too.

Some player programs can work that way, or start and stop the drive
playing itself, feeding audio decoded by the drive, itself, to the sound
card.  For what it's worth, neither way is "playing wav files".

There can also be a problem in choosing how to play a disc, as there are
not files on the disc, it's one continuous stream of encrypted data.
There needs to be some way to show a list of tracks to play, there are
systems which fake a file system, or players which determine the table
of contents for themselves (perhaps when you add a plug-in).

If you're not connecting an audio cable between drive and sound card,
you need to find a player program that can do digital playback.  XMMS
can do this, but required you to set up a fake CD directory for you to
pick as being your track list selector (choosing to play a pseudo file
from it would play the appropriate track on the disc).

Though, your description of the drive starting to do something, then
aborting, sounds like you might have another problem.  e.g. Some people
have said that some drives are no good for playing audio CDs for them.
Or, you may be trying to play one of those discs which are copyguarded,
and don't play back on computers.

[Tim]

Tim:
> find a player program that can do digital playback.  XMMS can do this

Here, playing around on Fedora 9.  I can get XMMS, VLC, & Rhythmbox, at
least, to play back digital audio from a CD drive.  None of which I
recall adding anything extra to manage it, but then it's only just now
that I've tried to play an audio CD on this computer.

Perhaps looking for something listed below might start you off in the
right direction.  I started off with the extra Livna repo on my system,
which is now handled by RPM fusion.  Perhaps you need to use more than
just the official Fedora repos to install from.

[tim@suspishus bin]$ rpm -qa *stream*|sort
gstreamer-0.10.20-1.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.19-4.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-2.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.8-8.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-pulse-0.9.5-0.5.svn20070924.fc9.i386
gstreamer-python-0.10.11-2.fc9.i386
gstreamer-tools-0.10.20-1.fc9.i386
libwvstreams-4.4.1-4.fc9.i386
PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.3.12-1.fc9.i386
streamdvd-0.4-8.fc9.i386
totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-9.fc9.i386

[tim@suspishus bin]$ rpm -qa *rhythm*|sort
rhythmbox-0.11.6-2.fc9.i386

[tim@suspishus bin]$ rpm -qa *plug*|sort
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.16-4.fc9.i386
anaconda-yum-plugins-1.0-1.fc9.noarch
audacious-plugins-1.4.5-1.fc9.i386
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3-1.4.5-2.fc9.i386
audacious-plugins-freeworld-wma-1.4.5-2.fc9.i386
flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.19-4.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-2.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.8-8.fc9.i386
gstreamer-plugins-pulse-0.9.5-0.5.svn20070924.fc9.i386
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.20.b09.fc9.i386
libmodplug-0.8.4-3.fc9.i386
nspluginwrapper-1.1.10-1.fc9.i386
PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.3.12-1.fc9.i386
PackageKit-yum-plugin-0.3.12-1.fc9.i386
setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.11-1.fc9.noarch

[tim@suspishus bin]$ rpm -qa *vlc*|sort
vlc-0.9.8a-1.fc9.i386
vlc-core-0.9.8a-1.fc9.i386

[Timothy Murphy]

slamp slamp wrote:
> > By "does nothing" do you really mean "nothing"?  Or, does the cd spin
> > the timer counts but not sound?
> it spins for a few seconds then it stops. nothing else happens in
> rhythmbox, no timer etc. i am using gnome, volume is good like i said
> cd plays in sound juicer. is it possible the rhythmbox/gstreamer can't
> play wav files? ive installed all plugins for gstreamer but i am not
> sure if rhythmbox uses gstreamer. i dont have the analog cable from my
> cd/dvd drive to my sound card.

There are 10 different programs for playing CDs in Fedora.
At any moment, 1 of them will play and the other 9 won't.
That's life under Fedora.
At the moment I find JuK is working and rhythmbox is not.
A few weeks ago it was the other way round.

I am just thankful it is 1/10 and not 0/10 .

[slamp slamp]

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Timothy Murphy  wrote:
> slamp slamp wrote:
> > > By "does nothing" do you really mean "nothing"?  Or, does the cd spin
> > > the timer counts but not sound?
> > it spins for a few seconds then it stops. nothing else happens in
> > rhythmbox, no timer etc. i am using gnome, volume is good like i said
> > cd plays in sound juicer. is it possible the rhythmbox/gstreamer can't
> > play wav files? ive installed all plugins for gstreamer but i am not
> > sure if rhythmbox uses gstreamer. i dont have the analog cable from my
> > cd/dvd drive to my sound card.
>
> There are 10 different programs for playing CDs in Fedora.
> At any moment, 1 of them will play and the other 9 won't.
> That's life under Fedora.
> At the moment I find JuK is working and rhythmbox is not.
> A few weeks ago it was the other way round.
>
> I am just thankful it is 1/10 and not 0/10 .
>
> --
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that is just sad in my opinion. there is only one installed app in xp
or vista and it does what an average user needs.

i believe that no new computers have the analog cable from the cd/dvd
drive to the sound card. i have a Samsung SH-S203N (sata) which do not
include this cable.

[James Bridge]

On Sat, 2008-12-27 at 00:33 -0500, slamp slamp wrote:
> is anyone successful in playing an audio cd? i insert an audio cd,
> fedora 10 nicely asks what i want to do, i select open in rhythmbox
> but it does nothing. ...

In the panel on the left, you will see a heading "Devices" and an icon
for the audio cd. Click on that and the track information comes up in
the main panel. Hit the play button! The toolbar includes various tools
specific to cds. If the disc is ejected, the cd options all disappear.

Rhythmbox will use PulseAudio if it's there so you may need to play with
the volume controls for that as well as the one you normally see on the
screen.