1:32 p.m.
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no
input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio
is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection
always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...
Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?
Bob
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5:10 p.m.
On 11/29/20 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has
no
input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
That says it can't connect to the pulseaudio daemon. Is it running?
What does "ps auxw | grep pulse" show?
6:16 p.m.
On 2020-11-29 18:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
That says it can't connect to the pulseaudio daemon. Is it running?
What does "ps auxw | grep pulse" show?
_____
.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ ps auxw | grep pulse
bobg 1193 0.0 0.4 672264 32368 ? Sl 06:31 0:40
/usr/lib64/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0
/usr/lib64/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so 8 18874383
pulseaudio PulseAudio Plugin Adjust the audio volume of the PulseAudio
sound system
bobg 1325 0.3 0.1 1500256 14740 ? S<sl 06:31 2:18
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no --log-target=journal
bobg 8990 0.0 0.0 221564 848 pts/2 S+ 19:13 0:00 grep
--color=auto pulse
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6:45 a.m.
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 15:33, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin(a)fastmail.us> wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has
no
input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio
is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection
always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...
Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?
I have a couple years old Dell desktop that has audio out via HDMI,
rear panel speaker jack and front panel headset jack. HDMI output is
useless due to low quality of the speakers in my monitor. If I plug
in a headset a message comes up on the screen telling me that
audio is being sent to the headset. This message appears to come
from the system firmware (independent of the OS). It took a few
updates (Fedora 31) before Gnome allowed me to send audio to the
rear panel output. There were complaints on forums for other distros.
You might want to mention your system details in case you need to
look for a driver that supports your firmware.
I think Dell is using laptop technology in desktops (the Dell keyboard
even has a Fn key next to the left Ctrl key, but lacks the hints on the
top row F1, etc. to tell me what the Fn key does -- maybe it is just
there to help my fingers when switching to a Dell laptop -- not helpful
when switching to a Thinkpad).
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George N. White III
8:42 a.m.
On 2020-11-30 07:45, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 15:33, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin(a)fastmail.us
<mailto:bobgoodwin@fastmail.us>> wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA
has no
input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my
audio
is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection
always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...
Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?
I have a couple years old Dell desktop that has audio out via HDMI,
rear panel speaker jack and front panel headset jack. HDMI output is
useless due to low quality of the speakers in my monitor. If I plug
in a headset a message comes up on the screen telling me that
audio is being sent to the headset. This message appears to come
from the system firmware (independent of the OS). It took a few
updates (Fedora 31) before Gnome allowed me to send audio to the
rear panel output. There were complaints on forums for other distros.
You might want to mention your system details in case you need to
look for a driver that supports your firmware.
I think Dell is using laptop technology in desktops (the Dell keyboard
even has a Fn key next to the left Ctrl key, but lacks the hints on the
top row F1, etc. to tell me what the Fn key does -- maybe it is just
there to help my fingers when switching to a Dell laptop -- not helpful
when switching to a Thinkpad).
--
George N. White III
°
Well my no name keyboard has a function key in that location too, but my
computers are sort of home made, the two Fedora Workstations have MAI
main boards and use XFCE which may be where my audio is being routed
wrongly? My monitors use HDMI cables but I don't think I've had one with
speakers. The audio in question happens to be connected to some good
quality speakers that came with a separate amplifier unit my daughter
bought for me. I put the computers in rack and panel style cases for my
convenience in dealing with the cables and such, works well for me. I
remap the keyboard for my convenience also, F15 types "°" and others do
other things /want./
I don't have a headset to try but pa volume control tells me there is
none plugged in, it only sees the HDMI "plugs."
Anyway Fedora 33 has been really problematic for me, I am reluctant to
upgrade this Feodor 32 system since I need one working computer all the
time. I rely on my Notecase Pro program for my notes, if my memory fails
me i look there and then Google. That has been a struggle to get working
in F33, but the creator provides excellent help promptly The first thing
I look at when I boot in the morning is my Tkremind calendar and that
did not work until I got the set up process straightened out, again the
help there is very good. perhaps I should inquire on the xfce list about
the sound problem? No one has suggested that ...
Bob
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3
11:27 a.m.
Bob,
On the pavucontrol GUI "Configuration" tab, try switching off all
"Profile"s that have HDMI devices to select from.
Then make sure in the hopefully remaining "Profile", that one of the
"Analog *" output options stays enabled.
Plus: see the "Output devices" tab in the pavucontrol GUI, and try to
make sure a usable one (here: "Speakers") is enabled.
One caveat: making changes in the pavucontrol GUI seems being tricky -
I always write down the current settings before trying to change
anything in there ...
The rest just to give you overview of what's going on here:
F32 here, i3 desktop.
I have three "Profiles" in the mentioned "Configuration" tab, two for
"HDMI, and a remaining one for "Analog" outputs: One of the HDMI
"Profile"s for an external TV set, and a second one that has "Analog"
options. The moment I switch on the Analog profile, HDMI sound output
automatically seems to get switched off.
Careful!
and Good luck!
Wolfgang
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 02:32:43PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has
no input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my
audio is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same
connection always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...
Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?
Bob
--
"Altars are burnin' with flames far and wide
The foe has crossed over from the other side
They tip their caps from the top of the hill
You can feel them come, more brave blood to spill"
Bob Dylan: "'Cross The Green Mountain"
1:12 p.m.
On 2020-11-30 12:27, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
Bob,
On the pavucontrol GUI "Configuration" tab, try switching off all
"Profile"s that have HDMI devices to select from.
Then make sure in the hopefully remaining "Profile", that one of the
"Analog *" output options stays enabled.
.
I can't see how to turn off profiles? I'm looking at the XFCE volume
control and can see them listed under Configuration but nothing
j\happens when I click on the boxes at the left ...
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3
2:13 p.m.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
--
"Altars are burnin' with flames far and wide
The foe has crossed over from the other side
They tip their caps from the top of the hill
You can feel them come, more brave blood to spill"
Bob Dylan: "'Cross The Green Mountain"
On 2020-11-30 12:27, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>Bob,
>On the pavucontrol GUI "Configuration" tab, try
switching off all
>"Profile"s that have HDMI devices to select from.
>Then make sure in the hopefully remaining
"Profile", that one of the
>"Analog *" output options stays enabled.
.
I can't see how to turn off profiles? I'm looking at the XFCE volume
control and can see them listed under Configuration but nothing
j\happens when I click on the boxes at the left ...
I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start
"pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options
similar
to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-pe...
Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click
the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this
picture ...
HTH
Regards,
Wolfgang
3:02 p.m.
On 2020-11-30 15:13, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start
"pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options
similar
to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-pe...
Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click
the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this
picture ...
.
pavucontrol will not run, it tells me:
Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5 S
I guess XFCE volume doesn't react to that sitiuation.
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3
4:12 p.m.
On 2020-11-30 at 16:02:32 Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-11-30 15:13, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start
> "pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options
> similar
> to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-pe...
>
>
> Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click
> the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this
> picture ...
.
pavucontrol will not run, it tells me:
Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5 S
I guess XFCE volume doesn't react to that sitiuation.
Don't you have the pulse-audio plugin on your panel?
--
Erik P. Olsen - Copenhagen, Denmark
Fedora 33/64 bit xfce Claws-Mail POP3 Gramps 5.1.2 Bacula 9.6.5
5:19 p.m.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 04:02:32PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-11-30 15:13, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start
>"pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options
>similar
>to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
>
>https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-permanent
>
>
>Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click
>the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this
>picture ...
.
pavucontrol will not run, it tells me:
Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5 S
I'd try to stop pavucontrol:
% ps axo pid,comm | grep pavuco
<PID> pavucontrol
or
% ps ax | grep pavuco
then
% kill -s TERM <PID>
Then watch journalctl when trying to start pavucontrol again:
s.th. like
sudo journalctl -f -n 1000
the later hopefully gives you some error messages ....
Or you're already a bit sick of it and install F32 ...
Wolfgang
3:14 p.m.
On 2020-11-30 18:19, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
Or you're already a bit sick of it and install F32 ...
Wolfgang
.
No, I would probably wait for Fedora 34 and hope it works.
It is also possible the audio circuit has failed on the motherboard. I
may also create a new Fedora-33 on the another drive in that computer,
there is still /dev/sdb I can install on.
I also wasted a lot of time this morning trying to prove to myself that
that computer still was able to produce sound somehow, it did not! I
found a working Fedora-30 on a third hard drive, unfortunately the audio
problem is the same on everything I tried, F30 and with ab E32 live on a
flash drive I had.
I wonder if it is a setting in the cmos/bios in the MSI motherboard?
That is a scary mess of fancy artwork with a number of icons that seem
to do nothing. The last time I tried to make a change to the boot order
it turned out bad. I had to remove the battery and reset it to the
default conditions. I thought I had working sound after that, but I am
beginning to think perhaps not?
The best solution may turn out to be a different motherboard. I will
consider that ...
Thanks to all for the help, Bob
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3:26 p.m.
On 12/1/20 1:14 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I also wasted a lot of time this morning trying to prove to myself
that
that computer still was able to produce sound somehow, it did not! I
found a working Fedora-30 on a third hard drive, unfortunately the audio
problem is the same on everything I tried, F30 and with ab E32 live on a
flash drive I had.
That definitely suggests a hardware problem.
The best solution may turn out to be a different motherboard. I will
consider that ...
You can get really cheap USB sound devices now.
4:05 p.m.
On 2020-12-01 16:26, Samuel Sieb wrote:
You can get really cheap USB sound devices now.
__
Presumably they have a USB plug at one side and a mini phone jack on the
other end, can you suggest one likely to work without Windows?
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
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4:14 p.m.
On 12/1/20 2:05 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-12-01 16:26, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> You can get really cheap USB sound devices now.
> __
Presumably they have a USB plug at one side and a mini phone jack on the
other end, can you suggest one likely to work without Windows?
I haven't found one that doesn't work with Fedora. There's a standard
USB protocol for them.
4:13 p.m.
On 12/1/20 5:14 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
It is also possible the audio circuit has failed on the motherboard.
I
may also create a new Fedora-33 on the another drive in that computer,
there is still /dev/sdb I can install on.
Bob: Haven't followed the whole thread but...did you try booting off a
CD/USB? a Fedora 33 Live CD? Ubuntu? And see if it works there...?
--
Jorge
4:18 p.m.
On 2020-12-01 17:13, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Bob: Haven't followed the whole thread but...did you try booting
off a
CD/USB? a Fedora 33 Live CD? Ubuntu? And see if it works there...?
No but I tried Fedora-32 live I had on a flash drive, same problem.
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