Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
Gary
sounds like a perfect perl app, have you posted to odesk.com?
just a thought, ..
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Gary Stainburn < gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
Gary
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Hi Jack
Before I put finger to keyboard I thought I would ask to see if there was already something out there. If not, I'll knock something up.
Gary
On Monday 20 May 2013 16:40:06 Jack Craig wrote:
sounds like a perfect perl app, have you posted to odesk.com?
just a thought, ..
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Gary Stainburn <
gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
Gary
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good luck!
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Gary Stainburn < gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Jack
Before I put finger to keyboard I thought I would ask to see if there was already something out there. If not, I'll knock something up.
Gary
On Monday 20 May 2013 16:40:06 Jack Craig wrote:
sounds like a perfect perl app, have you posted to odesk.com?
just a thought, ..
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Gary Stainburn <
gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating
an
excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that
fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the
salesman
to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
Gary
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 08:40:06 -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
sounds like a perfect perl app, have you posted to odesk.com?
Perl? Perhaps working on this package review might be an idea then: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/705382
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 04:31:18PM +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote:
Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
Gary
I think Mailman, http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html, would do everything you want.
Mike
Quoting Gary Stainburn gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk:
Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
Simple... use a service such as Constant Contact. I believe they will accept that this list was generated as an opt-in list, but I'd be prepared for some questions from the recipients. If it were me, I'd send a couple emails out advising I was moving the list to a list-management service (such as CC) ahead of time to try and reduce the "surprise" factor.
John Aldrich wrote:
Simple ... use a service such as Constant Contact ...
If I may humbly say so, that's not a great idea. Many, many spam recipes on a wide range of platforms automatically drop anything from Constant Contact in the spam bucket without a second look.
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Allegedly, on or about 20 May 2013, Gary Stainburn sent:
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
There's any number of cost-free services that can do things just like that, such as yahoo's mailing lists (yahoogroups). I'm not sure how they, in particular, handle an administrator adding mail addresses to the distribution list (as doing that too-simply would allow spammers to thrive), but it certainly allows individuals to subscribe and unsubscribe.
One place to ask would be their ISP, presuming that's not you, they might offer a solution.
Hi folks
I haven't re-invented the wheel but have borrowed someone else's. I'm managed to do all of the functionality within EXIM and have even managed to manage the subscription list from our CRM :-)
I basically have /etc/aliases.d/list.<listname> which is used to inform EXIM (a) that the mailing list exists and (b) contains the addresses of administrators who are allowed to post and who receive errors.
I then have /etc/aliases.d/list.<listname>.members which contains the target addresses.
I then set up EXIM as per http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-some_common_conf... including using VERP and other settings to generate individual outgoing emails and individual incoming error messages.
All works as expected except where the remote mail server does a sender_verify. For some reason when the remote server does a sender_verify my EXIM server doesn't verify the sender (VERP generated FROM address) despite being able to handle errors coming back to the same address. Anyone got a clue what I've missed.
The relevent sections of my config consists of:
begin routers
#Added because Yahoo based services are blocking 88.211.105.30 smarthost: driver = manualroute domains = +smarthost_domains transport = remote_smtp route_data = mail.vaioni.com no_more
verp_dnslookup: driver = dnslookup domains = ! +local_domains transport = remote_smtp condition = ${if match {$return_path}{^(.+?)-bounce@ringways.co.uk$} {yes} {no}} errors_to = ${if match {$return_path}{^(.+?)-bounce@ringways.co.uk$}\ {$1-bounce+$local_part=$domain@ringways.co.uk}fail} no_more
dnslookup: driver = dnslookup domains = ! +local_domains # domains = groucho.ringways.co.uk transport = ${if match {$return_path}{^(.+?)-bounce@ringways.co.uk$}\ {verp_smtp}{remote_smtp}} ignore_target_hosts = 0.0.0.0 : 127.0.0.0/8 no_more
# The remaining routers handle addresses in the local domain(s), that is those # domains that are defined by "domainlist local_domains" above.
# handle distribution lists distribution_lists: driver = redirect domains = ringways.co.uk condition = ${if exists {/etc/aliases.d/lists.$local_part.members} {yes} {no}} file = /etc/aliases.d/lists.$local_part.members # forbid_pipe forbid_file errors_to = $local_part-bounce@ringways.co.uk no_more
distribution_list_requests: driver = redirect domains = ringways.co.uk local_part_suffix = -bounce* file = /etc/aliases.d/lists.$local_part no_more
..........
begin transports
# This transport is used for delivering messages over SMTP connections.
remote_smtp: driver = smtp
# used with distribution lists
verp_smtp: driver = smtp max_rcpt = 1 return_path = ${if match {$return_path}{^(.+?)-bounce@ringways.co.uk$}\ {$1-bounce+$local_part=$domain@ringways.co.uk}fail}
# This transport is used for delivering messages over SMTP using the # "message submission" port (RFC4409).
On Monday 20 May 2013 16:31:18 Gary Stainburn wrote:
Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
Gary
Gary Stainburn wrote:
Hi Folks.
I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list.
Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved.
However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution.
I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail.
Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use.
I did a perl script, reads all of the addresses from a list, the mail text from another, command line options to control the number of recipients per connect (sounds like you want one) and time between connects. Also copes with the fact that the master list gets updated by someone else, so I have a file of addresses to rewrite to something working and one of addresses to just drop, even though they're in the master list. Set the From header to a unique value so you can isolate the bounces, or use a unique string in the subject, I tried "Bounces-To" and found little sites use dumb mail programs which use from even if sender or bounces-to are present.
Enjoy.