Brother, can you spare a printer?

[Geoffrey Leach]

Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)

I'm looking at a Brother HL-L2340DW laser printer. I can't discover any specifics
as to whether it works with Fedora, although, "Linux is supported"

Does anyone have any experience?

Thanks.

[Dave Stevens]

On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 12:11:42 -0800
Geoffrey Leach <geoff(a)hughes.net&gt; wrote:

>  Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)
>  
>  I'm looking at a Brother HL-L2340DW laser printer. I can't discover
>  any specifics as to whether it works with Fedora, although, "Linux is
>  supported"
>  
>  Does anyone have any experience?
>  
>  Thanks. 
It's like the Woody Guthrie tune about the scientific method - Buddy Can
You Paradigm?

;-)

d

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[Sam Varshavchik]

Geoffrey Leach writes:

>  Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)
>
>  I'm looking at a Brother HL-L2340DW laser printer. I can't discover any  
>  specifics as to whether it works with Fedora, although, "Linux is supported"
>
>  Does anyone have any experience? 
This printer is not listed on http://www.openprinting.org/printers

The most likely definition for "Linux is supported" is that somewhere on  
Brother's dusty web site you can find a binary blob that you can install on  
an Ubuntu LTS, or an RHEL distribution.

… and after a brief Google search, damn, I'm good:

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256885

[Geoffrey Leach]

Sam, you are indeed the best. Thanks-a-bunch!

On 12/09/2016 01:57:11 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>  Geoffrey Leach writes:
>  
>  > Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)
>  >
>  > I'm looking at a Brother HL-L2340DW laser printer. I can't discover
>  any  
>  > specifics as to whether it works with Fedora, although, "Linux is
>  supported"
>  >
>  > Does anyone have any experience?
>  
>  This printer is not listed on http://www.openprinting.org/printers
>  
>  The most likely definition for "Linux is supported" is that somewhere
>  on  
>  Brother's dusty web site you can find a binary blob that you can
>  install on  
>  an Ubuntu LTS, or an RHEL distribution.
>  
>  … and after a brief Google search, damn, I'm good:
>  
>  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256885
>  
>   
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[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 16:57 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>  Geoffrey Leach writes:
>  
>  > Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)
>  >
>  > I'm looking at a Brother HL-L2340DW laser printer. I can't discover any  
>  > specifics as to whether it works with Fedora, although, "Linux is
> supported"
>  >
>  > Does anyone have any experience?
>  
>  This printer is not listed on http://www.openprinting.org/printers
>  
>  The most likely definition for "Linux is supported" is that somewhere on  
>  Brother's dusty web site you can find a binary blob that you can install on  
>  an Ubuntu LTS, or an RHEL distribution. 
I have a Brother All-In-One printer/scanner. The Brother download site
provides a CUPS-compatible rpm which works in Fedora.

poc

[John Morris]

On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 16:57 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

>  The most likely definition for "Linux is supported" is that
> somewhere on  
>  Brother's dusty web site you can find a binary blob that you can install on  
>  an Ubuntu LTS, or an RHEL distribution. 
Close.  Perl scripts instead of blobs, which are much more portable
across distros and versions.  But at least for the .deb they didn't know
enough to make em noarch.  (Haven't installed a Brother on RH tech) When
will companies learn to ask for community assistance?

[Sam Varshavchik]

John Morris writes:

>  On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 16:57 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
>  > The most likely definition for "Linux is supported" is that somewhere on
>  > Brother's dusty web site you can find a binary blob that you can install on
>  > an Ubuntu LTS, or an RHEL distribution.
>
>  Close.  Perl scripts instead of blobs, which are much more portable
>  across distros and versions.  But at least for the .deb they didn't know
>  enough to make em noarch.  (Haven't installed a Brother on RH tech) When
>  will companies learn to ask for community assistance? 
Out of idle curiosity: what do those Perl scripts do? Are they downloading a  
firmware image to the printer, or are they installing something into CUPS?

I would think that if it's just a bunch of Perl scripts, than someone would  
add something comparable to CUPS, and call it a day.

[Bob Goodwin]

On 12/10/16 07:56, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>  I would think that if it's just a 
>  bunch of Perl scripts, than someone 
>  would add something comparable to 
>  CUPS, and call it a day. 
+
I have had four or five Brother laser 
printers [no scanners] over the last ten 
years and have never needed to download 
a Brother driver. Cups has always had 
something that works including the 
HL-L5100DN I bought a few weeks ago to 
replace the HL-2170W that has been 
giving me trouble.

Bob

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[Fred Smith]

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 09:32:28AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>  On 12/10/16 07:56, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>  >
>  >I would think that if it's just a bunch of Perl scripts, than
>  >someone would add something comparable to CUPS, and call it a day.
>  +
>  I have had four or five Brother laser printers [no scanners] over
>  the last ten years and have never needed to download a Brother
>  driver. Cups has always had something that works including the
>  HL-L5100DN I bought a few weeks ago to replace the HL-2170W that has
>  been giving me trouble. 
I've had similar results with my old Brother HL-2070N, i.i., ity
can be made to work with one of the built-in printer definitions on
Centosand Fedora.

I've also set up a few multifunction Brothers, and the first time I
downloaded all the various blobs and followed the web-site's instructions
for hacking the system to make them work.

Why did I do this? because I didn't think there would be existing "free"
driver files for scanner and fax....

then I found (on Brother's driver site) a single download installer
that when run asks you what printer model you are installing, then
downloads the various blobs and does the system hacking for you. it has
always worked afteward, too! Sorry, I can't remember its name, but could
probably find it if someone needed me to.

(this particular netbook I'm using now has developed some kind of
dementia, however, wherein it sometimes spews an error message
when printing from a GUI app, and just this week seems to have been
sending the print jobs into a bit-bucket. but that isn't related to
the ease of installation. this system is up to date Centos7, but
thenso is my main desktop, upstairs, and it prints fine. Go figure.)
>  
>  Bob
>  
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[Kenneth Marcy]

On 12/10/2016 04:56 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>  John Morris writes:
>
> > On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 16:57 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >
> > > The most likely definition for "Linux is supported" is that 
> > somewhere on
> > > Brother's dusty web site you can find a binary blob that you can 
> > install on
> > > an Ubuntu LTS, or an RHEL distribution.
> >
> > Close.  Perl scripts instead of blobs, which are much more portable
> > across distros and versions.  But at least for the .deb they didn't know
> > enough to make em noarch.  (Haven't installed a Brother on RH tech) When
> > will companies learn to ask for community assistance?
>
>  Out of idle curiosity: what do those Perl scripts do? Are they 
>  downloading a firmware image to the printer, or are they installing 
>  something into CUPS? 
For my HL-L2320D, the scripts installed a working driver, then later, 
after connecting with the Brother site and downloading and installing a 
utility package, it did a firmware upgrade via the utility while 
connected on-line.

>  I would think that if it's just a bunch of Perl scripts, than
> someone 
>  would add something comparable to CUPS, and call it a day.
>  
It would be interesting to know the results of a before-and-after 
system-wide difference of exactly, precisely, which files are affected 
in what ways from the driver installation.  (Of course, I could write 
that about any installation.  Making such information routinely and 
easily available sounds even better.)


Ken

[Ted Roche]

I have the HL-L2360D laser and had to download and install drivers
from the Brother site to get it to work. It installs a custom PPD and
sets up the printer with a funky address of the form:

dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2360D%20series._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=efabcde-aaaa-1111-0000-decafbad
(ID obfuscated)

However, once I had the port set up, using the brother utility, the

Generic PCL 76/PCL XL Printer Foomatic/pxlcolor (recommended)

works fine as a driver.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Geoffrey Leach <geoff(a)hughes.net&gt; wrote:
>  Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)
>
>  I'm looking at a Brother HL-L2340DW laser printer. I can't discover any specifics
> as to whether it works with Fedora, although, "Linux is supported"
>
>  Does anyone have any experience?
>
>  Thanks.
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[Derrik Walker v2.0]

On 12/09/2016 05:25 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
>  I have the HL-L2360D laser and had to download and install drivers
>  from the Brother site to get it to work. It installs a custom PPD and
>  sets up the printer with a funky address of the form:
>
>
> dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2360D%20series._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=efabcde-aaaa-1111-0000-decafbad
>  (ID obfuscated)
>
>  However, once I had the port set up, using the brother utility, the
>
>  Generic PCL 76/PCL XL Printer Foomatic/pxlcolor (recommended)
>
>  works fine as a driver. 
I have a 5450 and had to install the drivers as above.  It
works fine, 
even the two sided printing.

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